John Johnston Taieri/Waiwera

[spades]

Hi Emsquared,

I have the Intention to Marry Notice for you.

Could you please PM me with your email address.

Spades

[spades]

Images sent.

Spades

[MonicaL]

Murray has asked me to look at some of these details with fresh eyes and all of that! Not sure it will help as you guys have already gone through plenty here.

Can I ask some questions first? On the shipping manifest in 1849 and the arrival in NZ of a John Johnston from Wigton. Does it actually mention Scotland or is it just simply Wigton? I couldn't see a possible John J on the 1841 census in Wigtownshire, but lots elsewhere in Scotland for that year with undeterminded birth place (so frustrating the 1841 census  ).

However, there is a possible Johnston family in Wigton, Cumberland to consider in 1841 (if there is no reference to Scotland on that 1849 list).

William Johnston 50 inn keeper
Elizabeth Johnston 45
John Johnston 15
Charles Johnston 13
Bridget Johnston 10
Joseph Johnston 5
www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M73F-DF5

This John is the only one showing in 1841 as not born in the county. If he lived there from very young, not surprising he would refer to himself as born in Wigton. The rest of the family were all born in the county.

Parents with youngest Joseph in 1851 www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG24-JF8

Murray, the other question I asked you via PM is whether you know the name of Elizabeth Bell's parents back in Scotland. You have mentioned that you have more info for her.

I see from the list of children for John and Elizabeth (Bell) that the names of Elizabeth and William could fit well here:

•         Elizabeth Johnston, born 1859 (folio #334) Dunedin
•         Martha Johnston, born 1861 (folio #439) Taieri
•         Anne Johnston, born 1862 (folio #325) Christchurch*
•         Jane Johnston, born 1864 (folio #611) Dunedin
•         William Johnston, born 1866 (folio #979) Warepa
•         Catherine Johnston, born 1868 (folio #1291) Kaihiku, Warepa
•         Mary Wylie Johnston, born 1870 (folio #1084) Oamaru*
•         Joan Johnston, born 1871, Jan. to March quarter (folio #1443) Popotunoa
*These are not likely part of the family because of their place of birth.

Monica 

[MonicaL]

Nothing for John from 1841 in family trees on a/try. There are a few trees for other siblings. These show mother Elizabeth's surname as Tremble and this marriage for her and William:

William Johnston and Elizabeth Tremble
Marriage 18 Aug 1818 Wigton, Cumberland, England
www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4QF7-JRPZ

Murray, struggling to see how we could link your John with this family (indeed any family) without some further hard pieces of info for him...

Monica

[emsquared]

Thanks Monica

Elizabeth Bell's parents were John Bell and Martha McLean.  Martha is used for the second child of John and Elizabeth. The children are now confirmed as Elizabeth, Martha, Jane, William, Catherine, Mary Bell and Joan,

The Anne  and Mary Wylie were not part of the family. William,Catherine and Mary have been further confirmed through Police reports that saw them entering the Caversham Industrial School as orphans in 1876. The youngest (Joan) was raised by another family and the eldest three avoided this.

I guess that parents of John would possibly be William and Elizabeth using Scottish naming patterns (if I have the rules right).

But as we said previously, John Johnston is a very common name.
Murray

[spades]

Hi MonicaL,

Re your question quoted here:

On the shipping manifest in 1849 and the arrival in NZ of a John Johnston from Wigton. Does it actually mention Scotland or is it just simply Wigton?
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If you go to the link given in Reply#5 you'll see that it only states"...Wigton..."

Spades

[MonicaL]

Thanks for confirming, spades  So there is a chink of hope then for that Wigton Johnston family. How to move forward though now  Tricky...

Monica

[emsquared]

I will make a further enquiry to the Presbyterian Archives in Dunedin to see if they hold any additional information on John. They have been very helpful in the past. While I have a transcript of the marriage of Elizabeth and John, it tells me nothing of their parents. I assume that this information was not collected at that time.

[Lucy2]

The nearest to picking him up on BDM NZ is this John Johnston.

1875/5748 Johnston John 42Y

This man seems to have died 04/11/1875 which is different. And the age is also different. Can anyone tell me where this fellow died?

Hello emsquared 

At the following link, the details of the death of the John JOHNSTON who died 4 November 1875.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/TT18751106.2.7

      ~   Lu