John Bell-Ann Paton

[andid]

I am hoping to find information on John Bell, born approx. 1834 in Edinburgh, Midlothian.. He wed Ann Paton, (born approx. 1835 in Angus, Scotland) on Feb. 10, 1854 in Lasswade, Midlothian.. They migrated to Australia in Oct. 1854 where they raised a family and both died.. I am hoping to find the parents of John Bell or suggestions where I can find that information.. I am not familiar with Scottish records so any help will be greatly appreciated..

[CaroleW]

Scotlands People is the only website for that info.  It's pay per view via purchase of credits but the index is free to search

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

You need to use the section headed Church Registers  - not Statutory Registers as all events were before 1855.  The marriage date is on Family Search but no parental details as it was pre-1855

[DonM]

Below are the baptisms 1833-1838 for Midlothian from Scotland's People OPR Index.

BELL JOHN    DAVID BELL/BARBARA LAMB 19/04/1833 Lasswade
BELL JOHN ORR   ALEXANDER MONTGOMERIE/BELL MARGARET COLQUHOUN 28/05/1837 Edinburgh
BELL JOHN    ROBERT BELL/MARION SCOTT 29/12/1833 Newbattle
BELL JOHN   JOHN BELL/CATHERINE ROBERTSON 21/02/1836 Colinton (or Hailes)
BELL JOHN   ALEXANDER REID/BELL JANET HUNTER ADAMSON 09/12/1836 Leith South
BELL JOHN   ANDERSON  CHARLES BELL/ANN HISLOP 26/06/1836 Canongate
BELL JOHN   ARCHIBALD   GEORGE ARCHIBALD/BELL EUPHEMIA TELFER 30/08/1835 Inveresk and Musselburgh
BELL JOHN MONTGOMERI   JOHN MONTGOMERIE/BELL ANNA ELIZA SCOTT 03/08/1838 Edinburgh

Their is also one in the Leith Relief Church and one at St. Mary's Cathedral records.

And there are probably just as many or more whose records are lost or never recorded. 

Do Australian death records not state who the parents were? 

Don

[JACK GEE]

andid, what part of Australia did your Paton's get to?
I have information on Paton of Saline - Fife and Kinross - but no Bell attachment.

cheers
Jack Gee

[Jamjar]

Do Australian death records not state who the parents were?

They do, Don, if provided by the informant.

The marriage:

BELL JOHN to ANN PATON/FR1583 (FR1583) 10/02/1854 691/70 244 Lasswade

Where, when, and at what age did he die in Australia?

What were the names of their children?

Jamjar

[Jamjar]

In 1841 there is one BELL family in the marriage area. They are not there in 1851. Of course he may not have been from the area of marriage.

1841 691/19/1 Lasswade Midlothian

Alexander 36
Ann 36
Jane 14
Peter 10 - possibly there in 1851 691/10/22 BELL Peter 21
John 8
Alexander 5
Frances 1

No suitable Ann PATON there in 1841- 1851.

Jamjar

[andid]

Thank you everyone for the replies.. I am getting my info second hand.. A gal in Australia is his grand daughter and is seeking more info on him.. I came across her post in a DNA site and because I have Bells in my tree as well, ran a Gedmatch check.. Though we are below the 7 cM's threshold, we match as do I and her sister and another John Bell descendant on several segments, 5.5 cM's the highest.. So we are trying to find his parents names.. He died Oct.8, 1907 in Brunswick, Victoria, Australia listed as 73 at time of death.. There was a notice in the local paper of his death, that is where she got the date.. She has not yet located a death certificate.. Ann Paton died Aug. 29, 1902 in Brunswick also.. Children that I know of are Agnes Brown Reid, Annie, Mary Agnes, Thomas, Sarah, Margaret, John, Janet, and William.

[MonicaL]

The 1854 manifest gives John Bell's birth place as Edinburgh (this may not exclude other nearby areas to Edinburgh). His occupation is showing as a gardener.

The Australian death index gives his birth year as c. 1832 as does the newspaper notice - aged 75 in 1907 on both.

Monica

[MonicaL]

For Ann Paton, the Australian death index gives her birth year c 1833 when she died in 1902. Mention there of father 'Taggart' (not really a first name  ) and mother 'Ann'.

Lots of children there. Trying to see whether we can see any naming pattern there that might be clues on maternal and paternal grandparents' names.

Monica