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Re: "Glencairn", Rutherglen, was this a Care Home?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 08 June 20 12:39 BST (UK) »
I meant it the other way, Pharma.  I hadn't heard it used in the Highlands, where I once lived, as Skoosh knows  :D

PS -  Glencairn is also in Dumfriesshire. i was told, by the parish clerk, that one of my dead end lines were from there.
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Re: "Glencairn", Rutherglen, was this a Care Home?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 08 June 20 13:59 BST (UK) »
The elderberries make a good Port substitute!  ;D

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Re: "Glencairn", Rutherglen, was this a Care Home?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 08 June 20 14:12 BST (UK) »
The birds used to eat the berries, Skoosh  ;D

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I've tried to find out about the SA in Rutherglen but can't find much about them at Glencairn,1 Lower Bourtree Drive, which was registered to them in 1940.  It might be worth contacting them at their main address  to see if they can help you :

https://rutherglen.cylex-uk.co.uk/company/the-salvation-army-rutherglen-17133605.html

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Re: "Glencairn", Rutherglen, was this a Care Home?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 08 June 20 17:56 BST (UK) »
Hi and Welcome from me too  :)

As well as the football connection and a pub, there is a road named Glencairn Drive in Rutherglen .

Also, looking at the 1940 valuation rolls for Rutherglen, there is a house called Glencairn, owned  by the Salvation Army.  Could that be it? 

When did your aunt die?

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Add - it was at 1 Low(er) Bourtree Drive
[Hi everyone, many thanks for welcome and replies.  My relation died in 1960.  She was a widow, living alone, strongly suspect no family.   Very helpful replies, and yes it's a Caithness connection.  Just at the end of my tree (last person) out of 8!
Regards to all
Gollach /quote]


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Re: "Glencairn", Rutherglen, was this a Care Home?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 08 June 20 18:01 BST (UK) »
Hi all, many thanks indeed for all your replies.  Relation died in 1960, widow, strongly suspect no family.   At first I thought it was at her house, then in the column for "Informant" it said "Matron" so was a little puzzled by this. 
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Re: "Glencairn", Rutherglen, was this a Care Home?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 08 June 20 18:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Gollach , welcome to RC  :)

Lanarkshire Scotland ?
When did this happen ?
If you can give further information I'll move this to the Lanarkshire Board  :-\


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Hi there, yes Lanarkshire Scotland.  She died in 1960 in the district of Rutherglen, Lanark.  A widow, and strongly suspect no family, hence the informant perhaps being "Matron". 

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Re: "Glencairn", Rutherglen, was this a Care Home?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 09 June 20 08:38 BST (UK) »
According to the Oxford English Dictionary
Bourtree: the Elder-tree ( Sambucus nigra). attributive, as in bourtree-berry, bourtree-bush; bourtree-gun a popgun made of the wood of the Elder, after the pith has been removed.
Now only Scottish and northern dialect.
Etymology: Of uncertain phonetic form, and unknown origin. The plausible derivation < bore is inconsistent with the earliest and with the dialect forms; derivation < bower, Scots bour, boor (in sense of ‘arbour’) answers phonetically, but is unlikely with regard to meaning. Compare bountree n.

Bountree: Common name in Scotland of the Elder-tree. Also attributive, as in bountree gun.
Etymology: ? A variant of bourtree; or a distinct word = bound-tree , < bound from being planted to mark boundaries.

So it does not appear to be of Gaelic origin.

There are several places called Bourtree or Bourtreebush or similar, all in the Lowlands, and Bourtree occurs in 17 of the volumes of OS Name Books. Other spellings are available.

These are some of them.
https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NO9096
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NO7665
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NO4756
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NS4128
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NS3439
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NS2155

but I have not come across Bountree or Bowntree before.

Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: "Glencairn", Rutherglen, was this a Care Home?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 09 June 20 08:55 BST (UK) »
I've a liking for the second description in my definitions given in Reply #8

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Sc. 1808 Jam.:
Bourtree, Boretree, Bountree. . . . This shrub was supposed to possess great virtue in warding off the force of charms and witchcraft. Hence it was customary to plant it round country-houses and barnyards.

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Re: "Glencairn", Rutherglen, was this a Care Home?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 09 June 20 09:15 BST (UK) »
Sambuca, originally distilled from elder can put a wee jag in your coffee. Caffé Corretto.  ;D

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