Gilling, North Yorkshire

[zalib]

I'm trying to find the names of the clergy in the C of E church in Gilling, Yorkshire particularly in the period 1750 to 1800 and the years that John Hall may have been there.

I'm aware of the Clergy Database and am questioning the accuracy of the data there. I have conflicting information for John Hall of Chew Magna, Somerset. The Clergy database says that he came from Hereford via Hope Mansell. Newspapers at the time say he came from Gilling, Yorkshire. If he came from Hereford to Chew Magna how did he end up marrying a lady from Brignall in Yorkshire, not far from Gilling!

There is not much info for John Hall of Gilling in the Clergy Database.

[RuthieB]

It looks to me (from the Clergy database) that these are two different people.

The John Hall at Chew Magna was ordained priest in 1777 in the diocese of Hereford so it could be said that he came from Hereford to serve his curacy at Hope Mansell in 1777 and was at Chew Magna from 1787. It's still possible that he was born in Gilling.

The John Hall at Gilling was curate there in 1783, and was apparently only there in 1783 and nowhere else.

[Geordie Mag]

The Brignall register is clear - on August 14th 1782 Sarah Blackburne otp married John Hall of Gilling.

[zalib]

Thank you both for the important feedback. The mention in the marriage records confirms my developing thoughts, and I agree that there appear to be two people so I'll have to research the Yorkshire person now and also see what the Hope Mansell records contain.

I cannot see why the Hope Mansell person would have skipped up to Yorkshire for such a short period.

[Geordie Mag]

From the Gilling records it seems that John and Sarah did not have a happy start to their marriage. The deaths of John and Sarah Hall, both recorded as children of the Revd John Hall, are recorded and no mention of other children, though this could well be because they moved away.

[Geordie Mag]

Looking at the clergy database, there are 2 entries for what seems to be the same John Hall. There is John Hall 1780-81, deaconed in York diocese in 1780 and priested in Chester diocese in 1781 and said to be curate at Brignall in 1780. Then there is John Hall, 1783, curate at Gilling.

Sarah Blackburne's brother (I think) became vicar of Brignall in 1780 and stayed there until 1816. He was called Francis as was their father who was Rector of Richmond 1728-89 and Archdeacon of Cleveland 1750-87, so a big cheese in the Church.

[zalib]

regarding the children: I have not found the Gilling records yet (don't have access on FindMyPast) but can see several names for Gilling deaths and son John with father Revd John HALL in baptism. There's also an earlier John baptism with parents John and Sarah but no 'Revd'. Good info, might put some more money on FindMyPast!
When in Chew Magna the couple had 4 children, Jane 1889, Hannah Mary 1891, Sarah 1894 and Theophilla 1894. This seems to include a second child named Sarah, which could give a clue to parents! I cannot trace Jane or Sarah. Hannah Mary married Thomas POYNTON in Somerset and a number of their records were passed to the Somerset Heritage Centre.Theophilla married William WRIGHT in Somerset.

[zalib]

Regarding deacons, curates etc: Two nephews? of Sarah (Francis and William) spent time in Chew Magna as curates, so it pays to have family contacts! I cannot trace John HALL of Gilling in BMD. If he had come from Herefordshire I have a problem because the Herefeford JH was made a priest in Hope Mansell, but would he have taken a curate position in Gilling and Brignall, it doesn't make sense to me, but I don't understand the workings of the church.
I'm sticking with the thought that the Hereford part of JH history belongs to a different John HALL but now I need to trace where he was after 1787.
Thanks for all the help.

[Geordie Mag]

The Gilling West records are transcribed, including any notes in the register, on FreeReg, though not many references to the Rev John Hall.
The Brignall registers record the baptisms of two sons of the Rev Francis Blackburne, vicar - Francis on Dec.5th, 1781 and William on Nov 4th, 1783.
Is it the Chew Magna John Hall who is of interest to you?