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Presbyterian query.
« on: Wednesday 03 June 20 19:54 BST (UK) »
Could someone be married by bans in the Presbyterian faith but have no actual record of the marriage?

I know a family member got married between 1877 and 1881 but there is no record on any sites, including PRONI and I've checked Scotland and English records.

I'm starting to think this person could have married his aunt (through marriage - widow of his blood uncle).

Her first husband died in 1877 and she died 1881. So the second marriage had to occur between these periods.

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Re: Presbyterian query.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 21:14 BST (UK) »
It's not unusual for a marriage not to be registered.

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Re: Presbyterian query.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 21:21 BST (UK) »
Just puzzled, as her first marriage was registered and her second husband's next two marriages were also registered.

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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 21:30 BST (UK) »
I've see entire pages of parish registers (RC) with only one or two of the marriages registered.
My grandfather is the only one of his family without a birth cert and he also has no marriage cert.
It happens.
Hopefully you can find a church record of the marriage.


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Re: Presbyterian query.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 21:35 BST (UK) »
Thanks

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Re: Presbyterian query.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 June 20 09:27 BST (UK) »
Best to stick to one thread on a subject to avoid duplication of searching and posts.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=832009.msg6965714#msg6965714

The 'missing' marriage isn't really a Presbyterian query but a general one. However, in this case, after checking Scottish, English & Welsh records (the last 2 unlikely but easily checked), if nothing turns up I don't think there was a marriage between William J. McComb and Ellen.
Does the report of her suicide shed any light on whether she was married or cohabiting at the time of her death (either might, according to wording of late husband's Will, mean that she would not be entitled to his property, etc.).
What about any mention of legal proceedings in newspapers prior to her death?

I'm starting to think this person could have married his aunt (through marriage - widow of his blood uncle).
Why do you think he married his uncle's widow? From the other thread-
William McDowell married 1863 Eliza Bean (age 18). William McDowell died December 1878. Eliza died (as wife? of W.J. McComb) in 1881.
Thus any 2nd marriage for Eliza would have been Dec.1878-1881. William John McComb was about 22 in 1881. If they got married before around 1880 then he would have been under age which might also explain why they never actually got married.
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Re: Presbyterian query.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 04 June 20 10:03 BST (UK) »
The Belfast Newsletter says
"It appeared that deceased had been a second time married"

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Re: Presbyterian query.
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 04 June 20 10:11 BST (UK) »
The Belfast Newsletter says
"It appeared that deceased had been a second time married"

Hmm... could go either way...
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Re: Presbyterian query.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 04 June 20 10:17 BST (UK) »
I can't look on iPad but would there be a memorial thingy for the farm on FamilySearch land registry records?