Gosh this moved on very quickly since I logged on yesterday. Thanks so much for looking into that option, very thorough and good work. This person certainly comes from a confusing family!
So we think that because he is listed as John Thomas Lloyd , he cannot be my man who goes by John Lloyd? To be fair even on my John Lloyd's probate , it is just John Lloyd.
Her married Elizabeth Davies, whose parents were Rebecca and Thomas. So sadly the daughters don't seem to be named after their maternal grandmother.
Marriage took place in Leintwardine church. Both signed their name. Names of witnesses, William Davies (her brother or uncle) and Elizabeth Meredith. I went down the witnesses route. There is an Elizabeth Meredith in Leintwardine on the 1881 census. Her husband died 1889 and in 1891 she is with her son and daughter in law, but nearby. I checked if Elizabeth Meredith was a sister, but couldn't find an Elizabeth Lloyd marrying a Meredith in the right period or area.