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leac uaighe
« on: Tuesday 02 June 20 19:54 BST (UK) »
An mbeadh duine in ann an leac uaighe seo a aistriú go Béarla?
Keenan (Co. Antrim Ireland - Scotland)
McCart (Co. Antrim Ireland - Scotland)
McMullan (Ballymoney Co. Antrim)
Westwood (Kingswinford)
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Stanley (London)
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Re: leac uaighe
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 01:06 BST (UK) »
using good old Google Translate...
Would anyone be able to translate this tombstone into English?
Norfolk, Nelsons of Gt Ryburgh, Gooch, Howman, COLLISONS of Norfolk and Auchlunie Aberdeen ,  Ainger, Couzens, Batrick (Norfolk & Dorset), Tubby of Poringland, Norwich ( also of Yorkshire) Cathcarts of Dublin, Ireland, Lancashire & Isle of Wight) Dickinsons of Morecambe and Lancaster, Wilson of Poulton-le-Sands and Broughton.  Wilson - Ffrance of Rawcliffe,  Mitchells of Isle of Wight. Hair of Ayrshire, Williamson of Tradeston, Glasgow. Nelsons in Australia with Great Ryburgh and Haywards Heath

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Re: leac uaighe
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 01:16 BST (UK) »
is it Hindi ?   I can sound out many of the words which sound Celtic, Irish or Western Isles which have the same Indo-European root words as Indian languages.  The months come up in Google Translate.  It might take a bit of retyping into phrases and inputting into Google Translate.
Norfolk, Nelsons of Gt Ryburgh, Gooch, Howman, COLLISONS of Norfolk and Auchlunie Aberdeen ,  Ainger, Couzens, Batrick (Norfolk & Dorset), Tubby of Poringland, Norwich ( also of Yorkshire) Cathcarts of Dublin, Ireland, Lancashire & Isle of Wight) Dickinsons of Morecambe and Lancaster, Wilson of Poulton-le-Sands and Broughton.  Wilson - Ffrance of Rawcliffe,  Mitchells of Isle of Wight. Hair of Ayrshire, Williamson of Tradeston, Glasgow. Nelsons in Australia with Great Ryburgh and Haywards Heath

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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 01:41 BST (UK) »
It outfoxes Google Translate ... words I've entered have come up as , Filipino, Corsican, Catalan, Irish Gaelic, Scots Gaelic, Japanese and Hindi.  However, buried + a date is clearly seen all the way down the bottom of the obelisk.   Knowing the location would help.  Is it Bretagne ?   Or the Crimea?  or some other Conflict Zone possibly ?  Malta is a possibility as their own language is a mixture but mainly derived from Africa, but where is it? 
Norfolk, Nelsons of Gt Ryburgh, Gooch, Howman, COLLISONS of Norfolk and Auchlunie Aberdeen ,  Ainger, Couzens, Batrick (Norfolk & Dorset), Tubby of Poringland, Norwich ( also of Yorkshire) Cathcarts of Dublin, Ireland, Lancashire & Isle of Wight) Dickinsons of Morecambe and Lancaster, Wilson of Poulton-le-Sands and Broughton.  Wilson - Ffrance of Rawcliffe,  Mitchells of Isle of Wight. Hair of Ayrshire, Williamson of Tradeston, Glasgow. Nelsons in Australia with Great Ryburgh and Haywards Heath

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Re: leac uaighe
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 02:24 BST (UK) »
I recognise a few words. I can't read some of inscription.
Line 2   _ mercy on the soul
Line 4 _ April 1901
Line 7   March 1901
Line8   also  the soul _ _
Line 10  on 27 July 1898
Line 11  also  the soul of father domnaill
Line 12 Milua d.d.  _ _ _ _ _
Line 13  on 15 November 1911
Line 16 soul of father Catal uiluan SP

I've done easy bits. My Irish is sparse and rusty.

d.d.  = D.D. Doctor of Divinity?
Was Catal uiluan Cathal  Charles) Houlihan?

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Re: leac uaighe
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 03:00 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Ian Nelson on Wednesday 03 June 20 01:41 BST (UK)
It outfoxes Google Translate ... words I've entered have come up as , Filipino, Corsican, Catalan, Irish Gaelic, Scots Gaelic, Japanese and Hindi.  However, buried + a date is clearly seen all the way down the bottom of the obelisk.   Knowing the location would help.  Is it Bretagne ?   Or the Crimea?  or some other Conflict Zone possibly ?  Malta is a possibility as their own language is a mixture but mainly derived from Africa, but where is it?

The language is Irish, written in the formal classical style. Carrycowan (Carrowcowan) is mentioned on the gravestone. That’s near Ballymena Co. Antrim.
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Re: leac uaighe
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 08:04 BST (UK) »
Using this forum - our replies should be in Irish.  :-\
The memorial is to the O’Loan family - is that what is required?

1901 - Death of Henry and his wife Isabella (ni ciarda - Carey?)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1901/05730/4617095.pdf
Isabella died just before the census and he died just after

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Crumlin/Carrycowan/929638/
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Re: leac uaighe
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 09:25 BST (UK) »
Line 3     Henry ui Luain who died 2nd
       4      April 1901
       5     and  Sibeal Ni Ciarda his wife
       6     ....... who died on 26th
       7          March 1901
       8      and on the soul of his son Henry Junior
       9    Ui luain  ME   ......    ...... who
      10    died 27th July 1898
      11    and on the soul Fr  Daniel
      12     uiLuain DD  the oldest son who
      13     died 15th November 1911
      14    ....professor......  Maynooth
      15    for 15 years  and
      16    on the soul Fr Cathal Uiluain  SP
      17     who put up this grave stone
      18     and who died on 30th Oct 1935



Added   Death cert Daniel OLoan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05383/4502303.pdf




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Re: leac uaighe
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 14:13 BST (UK) »
Quote from: conahy calling on Wednesday 03 June 20 09:25 BST (UK)

       9    Ui luain  ME   ......    ...... who
     

       9. Ui liain me fear ......
  fear = man
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