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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #126 on: Saturday 20 June 20 20:30 BST (UK) »
This appears to be a burial record of Annaley Frances Phillips ("Fenni") in Ouderkerk on 2 August 1896.  My understanding of "overleden te" is that it means "died in".  If so it was a long way to bring her body from Abergavenny to South Holland.  Can "overleden te" mean something quite different like "late of" or even "born in"?  If she did die in Abergavenny then her death would have had to be registered there and I can find no evidence of that.  And why would she return to Wales so many years after she had left?

https://www.geni.com/photo/view?album_type=photos_of_me&id=6000000019903065768&photo_id=6000000032917191849&position=0

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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #127 on: Saturday 20 June 20 23:01 BST (UK) »
It was mentioned a few pages back that Abraham Phillips's youngest daughter, Helen, married Martin Carl Schletter of Birmingham in 1843.  He had been born in Loslau, Silesia in Prussia about 1804 and, according to his naturalisation papers filed in 1853, he had resided in Birmingham from about 1833. He manufactured brass bedsteads for a while, then colours and settled as a general merchant.  He must have traveled abroad quite a bit judging from the number of passports that he applied for and he died overseas in Venice on 27 December 1861.  Martin did well financially, leaving an estate worth over £4 million in 2020 pounds.  Helen and Martin had at least four children: Pauline (b 16 September 1845), Henry (b 13 July 1847), Amelia (b 31 March 1854) and Percy (b 4 August 1855) who were baptised together at St Marks Marylebone on 16 March 1859. 

I don't know what happened to the other children but Percy married a ship-owner's daughter in Liverpool in 1896 and went on to become a Colonel in the British Army.  He died in Angola and here is his memorial in Toxteth Park Cemetery:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/183643282/percy-schletter

Culturally there is quite a journey from Abraham's father to his grandson, Percy.

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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #128 on: Saturday 20 June 20 23:32 BST (UK) »
Does anyone know who Annie Schletter is? She hasn't been mentioned so far. See below.

Annie Schletter papers

https://archives.yale.edu/repositories/11/resources/756

Scope and Contents

The Annie Schletter papers consist of correpondence, writings, printed ephemera, and photographs related to Annie Schletter and her family, including Pauline Schletter and Percy Schletter, and span the years 1757-1937. The papers are housed in three boxes (including 1 oversize box) and are organized into four series: Correspondence, Writings of Others, Printed Ephemera, and Photographs.

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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #129 on: Saturday 20 June 20 23:33 BST (UK) »

Found her.

Annie Schletter (1858-1944) was an English actress active in London during World War I. She was the sister of Pauline Schletter (b. 1851), a translator. Percy Schletter (1855-1922), a colonel in The King's Liverpool Regiment, was also related, probably their brother.

https://snaccooperative.org/ark:/99166/w62r4bmr



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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #130 on: Sunday 21 June 20 00:36 BST (UK) »
An extract of a review of a play Annie Schletter was in.


"The House of Peril"
By Horace Annesley Vachell from the novel by Mrs Belloc Lowndes.
Produced at The Queen's Theatre, March 1919.

The most satisfying thing in the play was the acting of Miss Annie Schletter as '"Madame" Wachner' of the Chalet des Muguets, an extraordinarily clever study of the doting Hausfrau, much busied about the service of her lord. Mr. Norman McKinnel as 'Wachner' easily contrived to convey the typically Teuton blend of brutishness, and domestic sentimentality, combined with the heavy playfulness which by a curious delusion, ineradicably racial, is mistaken over there for humour. "Ja, ja," he says complacently, "I have the humour-sense."

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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #131 on: Sunday 21 June 20 10:18 BST (UK) »
David,

In response to your post #126 regarding Fenni's place of death, I agree that it does seem odd. I have read elsewhere online that she died in Nice on 29 July 1896. But that is probably even further away.

Who would have arranged to transport her remains to the Ouderkerk? Perhaps even stranger is that she does not appear to have been buried next to her husband Isaac.

https://www.dutchjewry.org/portuguese_israelite_cemetery/m.shtml

You could always contact the cemetery (info@bethhaim.nl) and request a clarification.


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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #132 on: Sunday 21 June 20 11:41 BST (UK) »
Annie's wartime work organising over 200 concerts for the Red Cross.

https://vad.redcross.org.uk/Card?fname=Annie&sname=schletter&id=184500&first=true&last=true

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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #133 on: Sunday 21 June 20 21:59 BST (UK) »
Sir Claude Phillips, the first Keeper of the Wallace Collection, was probably the most distinguished son of Robert Abraham Phillips and Helen Levy.  Here is his Wikipedia entry:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Phillips

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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #134 on: Sunday 21 June 20 22:58 BST (UK) »
Helen Levy's brother, Joseph Moses Levy, was known nationally as the successful proprietor of the Daily Telegraph.  I realise we are getting slightly off-piste here but I was not expecting to find a press baron in the family and thought you might be interested.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Moses_Levy