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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #72 on: Sunday 14 June 20 23:44 BST (UK) »
Dear Leonard,

I have had a look at the Family Search tree.  Unfortunately I think you have picked up the wrong Sarah Phillips.  There were two who are often muddled up. I have both of them in my tree and they confused me for a while!

The Sarah Phillips born in Southwark in 1799 and who died in 1872 in the City of London, married Jacob Michael Silverston at the Hambro Synagogue on 5 June 1822.  She was the third daughter of Mordecai and had 11 children and at least 63 grandchildren.

The Sarah Phillips born in Plymouth in 1789 and who died in London in 1875 was married to Jacob Solomon.  There are good surviving portraits of this Sarah and her husband.  You have picked up one of these.  There is also a surviving portrait of this Sarah's parents but I have never seen it although I know where it was in the 1980s and I am still trying to track it down.  Apparently this portrait dates from 1804 and is described as "Mr and Mrs Phillips of Exeter".  Annoyingly no first names are recorded.

What is the best way to correct the "project" tree in Family Search?

Regards,  David

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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #73 on: Monday 15 June 20 00:19 BST (UK) »
Hi David,

Please join Family Search it's free and update the relevant pages if you need any additional guidance, please let me know.

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Leonard

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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #74 on: Monday 15 June 20 00:23 BST (UK) »
Once you've joined Family Search you'll have access to the edit settings see screen grab for guidance.

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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #75 on: Monday 15 June 20 00:25 BST (UK) »
I'm 'watching' Sarah Philips so I'll receive a notification when it's done.

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Leonard


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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #77 on: Monday 15 June 20 00:30 BST (UK) »
I've found Jacob Michael Silverston, I'll attach him to Sarah Philips. Then please check.

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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #78 on: Monday 15 June 20 00:37 BST (UK) »
Hi David,

I've updated Sarah Philips' card, please check (see link below).

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Leonard

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G7Z8-TFS

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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #79 on: Monday 15 June 20 00:42 BST (UK) »
Hi David,

Any idea who the unknown Philip might be? See screen grab.

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Leonard

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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #80 on: Monday 15 June 20 10:53 BST (UK) »
Hello everybody,

Each time I blink, there are more additions to this thread. Great stuff.

Welcome on board David.

In answers to your questions David.

1) Abigail's Hebrew name as inscribed on her gravestone in Swansea was Beyla, not Golda as written in Solomon's will. Jacob Mosely was Ya'acov son of Eliezer in Hebrew.

I established yesterday that Haya's husband was Levy Phillips, who died on 21 Oct 1837 at Great Russell Street, Bloomsbury. The entry in the death register notes that he was the son-in-law of Zelig the hazan. His full Hebrew name Yehuda Leib son of Uri ha-Levi (the Levite).

The name Leib is Yiddish for "lion" and is the description given by the Biblical Jacob to his son Judah (Yehuda). More often than not, Hebrew records will record an individual as Yehuda known as Leib. Levy/Levi was frequently adopted as a secular name, particularly in Germany, e.g. Levi Strauss. The reasons for this remain obscure, although I have my own theory. During the course of the 19th century, Louis/Lewis became fashionable.

3) Hendala is a mystery to me. Henrietta's marriage to Moses Cohen is recorded in the marriage register of the Hambro synagogue. Her name appears as Caroline / Golda daughter of Mordecai. This may simply have been a mistake on the part of the person who made the entry. Her gravestone from 1868 would probably clarify the matter. However, Henrietta was frequently the English name used for the Hebrew/Yiddish name Hendala/Hendela.

4) Your question about avunculate marriages (a new term to me, I confess) is an interesting one. There are at least two cases in my own Jewish ancestry. I can put the question to the forum on JewishGen.

Only yesterday, I discovered that Joseph Phillips had previously been married to Frances Friedeberg, i.e. Esther's sister. Frances died or was buried on 6 Sep 1834. Her address was Merthyr Tydfil !!

The Friedebergs were a large family.

Justin