birth details of William WILSON

[serendipity]

Looking for anyone who can look up a birth record for:-

WILLIAM WILSON - son of DANIEL WILSON - born abt. 1819 in Middlesex, London.

The above info I received from the British Census of 1851, saying William Wilson was head of household, age 32 yrs. born in Middlesex, London and the husband of my Gr.Gr.Grandmother, Patience Louisa Hill whom he married in 1839 in Portsea, Hampshire and father of my known Great Grandfather, Henry John Wilson who died in Bermuda.  (I'm told the 1841 census is not on-line).  Therefore, if baptism or birth records are available in the Middlesex, London area maybe he William and father Daniel can be found there along with Daniel's wife?
Am I asking for too much???

Cheers,
Serendipity

[Rick]

Hi Serendipity

I fear that without an exact location within Middlesex that this could be difficult.   Middlesex was a densely poplulated county consisting of numerous parishes.

Apart from the IGI at www.familysearch.org, which is only an index, there is also not a reliable online source for these records.  If you had a location within Middlesex you could then order the relevant parish films for viewing at your nearest LDS Family History Centre.

Does William give a more accurate place of birth on other censuses?

Rick

[serendipity]

Thanks Rick for your help.
Regarding my William Wilson, son of Daniel Wilson.

I have William Wilson's birth as 17 Feb. 1817 (family. bible info. no location).  At this point I do not know his parents names.

Then I find this:- Family Search IGI record
William Wilson, baptism. 20 Apr. 1817, all saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, Eng.
I do not really know if this is him or not.

1839 marriage of William Wilson in parish of Portsmouth, county of Southampton shows his father to be Daniel Wilson - no mention of a mother on this certificate.

I think I need to find the 1841 census info.

1851 Census shows William Wilson as head, mar. age 32 lab HM D-yard born Middlesex, London. - the provider of this info - states that this ref H0107 1611c folio 649: Layfield, Gillingham.

1861 census - William is missing and Patience L. Wilson his wife if head of household. and they are living in Gillingham Green, Gillingham, Kent .
FYI...Patience L. HILL is his wife and she was born in Sheerness, Kent abt. 1820-22

I DO NOT HAVE a death record of William Wilson either. - presumably he died while working in the Portsea Dockyard area of Hampshire.
or in the Gillingham, Kent area as the family are living there in the census of 1851.

Again I believe that the census of 1841 would allow me to know if he is still living and possibly narrow my window of places for his death - death certif. should show his place of birth and his parents names.

Living in Bermuda, we have no Mormon reference libraries to have a film sent.

Any help you can give is much appreciated.
Sincerely,
Judy @ Serendipity

[Rick]

Hi Judy

Because the IGI is an incomplete index that only represents a fraction of available records, and WILSON is not an uncommon name, I would be cautious about the Staffordshire baptism.

Alas the 1841 Census will not help you much with William's birthplace, as it does not record exact place of birth.  It only indicates whether or not a person was born in the census county.

A death certificate will also not help with this I'm afraid, because it too will not give his birthplace.  English death certificates will only show: Date and place of death. Age at death, Occupation, Cause of death, Name and address of informant of death.

I had a quick look on the national 61 index and could only find 2 Williams away from home on census night, born around the right time in Middlesex, but they were both widowers.

I am sorry to be so negative and it is difficult to know what to suggest next. It must be worth getting his death certificate though.  It might also be worth trying to find Daniel in 1851.  Presumably you have his occupation from the marriage certificate to help narrow things down?  If he is still living in Middlesex then it would at least give you a starting point for a parish record search for William's baptism.

Rick