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John Storey - Chirton - Missing Records and Father's Death
« on: Sunday 31 May 20 13:39 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

I have a tricky Storey bunch (seems a common name) that I've made some progress on in the last couple of years.

John Storey born c.1821 in Chirton was son of John Storey and Margaret Dobson (sister of the famous architect John Dobson). I have DNA links to the Dobson family and John Storey is found with remarried mother, Margaret Price in 1841.

Margaret Dobson (1797-1884) married John Storey on 24 Oct 1815 at Tynemouth - I have an image from the BT's. The two witnesses were Margaret's siblings so no help there in identifying John.

Margaret remarried to John Price on 19 Jan 1825 at South Shields. She is listed as a widow.

I am unable to find a death for John Storey Snr.

I also have a confusing DNA match... The match's grandmother was Agnes Storey b.1886 South Shields, daughter of James Brown Storey b.1854 and Elizabeth Jane Saunders b.1857. I believe I have accurately traced James Brown Storey's line back as follows:

Parents: George Gibson Storey b.1831 Gateshead m. Mary Brown b.1834 South Shields
Grandparents: John Storey b.1807 Swalwell baptised at Whickham m. Jane Gibson b.1808 Howden.
Great Grandparents: George Storey b.1782 Whickham m. Elizabeth Gardner b.1785 Gateshead.

This is where I think... Aha! Maybe George is brother of *MY* John Storey... so I carry on tracing the line...

George Storey's parents are: John Storey d. 1795 Swalwell bur. Whickham and he married a Mary.

This John Storey and Mary had the following  children (including George) that I have been able to find - all baptised at Whickham:
Isabel b.1780
Catherine b.1785
John b.1787
Ann b.1790

Aha! A sibling named John at around the right date for Margaret Dobon's  husband!
HOWEVER: This John seems to have lived past 1825 and married Sarah Lumley on 25 Aug 1810 at St Andrews, Newcastle Upon Tyne and potentially died in 1869 in Gateshead.

The DNA match shares 70cm with my great aunt. John Storey Snr is my great aunts Great Great Grandfather.
Three of the shared matches (excluding her grandson) have common ancestors as John Storey b.1821 Chirton and his wife Elizabeth Hewitt (from Cumberland).

I'm still at a loss of trying to find my John Storey's birth (b.1821) and a record of John Storey Snr's death (d. before 1825?) and parents.


Tree created for DNA Match: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/161415000/family?cfpid=102104404910&fpid=102104407431

My Tree: John Storey b.1821 - https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/8499087/person/-940511891/facts

Any help appreciated!

Many thanks,

Richard

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Re: John Storey - Chirton - Missing Records and Father's Death
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 31 May 20 22:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Richard,
That first link you have given goes to a private tree.
Second link works fine. I was curious and checked it out as I have Storey ancestors. Two of the kits you manage match my brother whose kit I manage, but not through our respective Storeys  :) We have chatted to each other on Ancestry previously.
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Re: John Storey - Chirton - Missing Records and Father's Death
« Reply #2 on: Monday 01 June 20 15:00 BST (UK) »
Have you ruled out the John Storey buried 27 Jan 1819 Tynemouth age 37, abode Poor House.
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Re: John Storey - Chirton - Missing Records and Father's Death
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 10:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Richard,
That first link you have given goes to a private tree.
Second link works fine. I was curious and checked it out as I have Storey ancestors. Two of the kits you manage match my brother whose kit I manage, but not through our respective Storeys  :) We have chatted to each other on Ancestry previously.

Hi,

The first link should hopefully work as the tree is now public.

Could you let me know how we connect so I can work out who you are from our DNA matches? By private message is fine if needed.

Thank you.


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Re: John Storey - Chirton - Missing Records and Father's Death
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 10:31 BST (UK) »
Have you ruled out the John Storey buried 27 Jan 1819 Tynemouth age 37, abode Poor House.
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Thank you for this. No I have not ruled this one out... it looks like a wider investigation into Storey's may be needed as I have started by widening my search.

Do you know if there are Workhouse records that may help determine who this John was? Admission/discharge, religious creed documents etc.

Thank you again.

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Re: John Storey - Chirton - Missing Records and Father's Death
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 10:59 BST (UK) »
I am not sure about Workhouse records (I am in Australia).

Maybe someone else can help?

Workhouses were also had Hospital wings so if unwell he may have only been there for awhile.
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