Missing Census? 1861 Mile End Old Town

[riholt]

Hi All,

I am trying to find Gloucester Street which I believe comes under Mile End Old Town. William Street's western end connects to Gloucester Street and it is Enumeration District 5. I have looked online trying to go through the districts but notice there is only numbers 1, 2, 5, 7 and 18 for Mile End Old Town online.

Do we know if the other's are still extant? I'm trying to find a 4x Great Grandmother who lists her address as 17 Gloucester Street on 18th Oct 1862.

Thank you!

[Bookbox]

Use the census street index to find the piece and folio numbers, then search using those numbers. (Note there is duplicate house-numbering in Gloucester Street, on east and west sides.)

https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20121229185400/http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Place:Mile_End_Old_Town_Registration_District%2C_1861_Census_Street_Index_G-I

[riholt]

Thank you! That's a really handy index. I didn't know it was hiding there in the website archives.

Sadly, she's not on the street in 1861! It would have been really helpful if she was.

She's the informant on a grandson's death certificate on 18 Oct 1862 at 17 Gloucester Street.

Having looked at the maps it makes sense that she would be in the area. Her daughter's family lived on William Street, her son's family lived on York Street, Jane Street and later on Cornwall Street... all within the same area.

There's a Harriet Burns b.1797 d.5 Aug 1866 at London Hospital, Whitechapel... within the same area - no husband's name listed (it's left blank). Informant is someone from the hospital.

The family name was Buyrn - spelt in various ways (Buyrns, Byrn, Byrne, Burn, Burns etc). Harriet was born in Devon but the 1851 does not list a parish... I've searched many ways in 1861 but can't find her.

[avm228]

What was her maiden name? Have you found a Devon baptism so as to identify a birthplace?

[riholt]

Her maiden name was Warren.

She married a Royal Marine in East Stonehouse, Devon who was going by the name John Dunmore although was born Matthew Buyrn.

There’s a baptism in Paignton, Devon in 1797... illegitimate - mother Susanna Warren.

There doesn’t seem to be any other matches in Devon. I haven’t managed to link up any DNA matches apart from one descendant of her son.

Her son William Dunmore b.1826 East Stonehouse was a merchant seaman and I have a little about him but no idea where he ends up or if he starts using a variation of the name Buyrn like the other children.

A daughter Mary Jane leaves her husband and married again becoming Mary Jane Dunn but her husband deserts her - she’s in Bethnal Green settlement records but I can’t find her after then either.

It’s a tricky family.

[jonwarrn]

There's a Harriet Burns b.1797 d.5 Aug 1866 at London Hospital, Whitechapel... within the same area - no husband's name listed (it's left blank). Informant is someone from the hospital.

Harriet Burns buried at the City of London Cemetery, 7 August 1866. Age 69
https://col-burialregisters.uk/archive/burial-registers-january-1860-to-december-1869/register-012/1066517

Loads from the London Hospital buried that day, see next page.

[riholt]

Wow thank you  so much! I've been trying to find her burial!

Yes, she died of cholera... there was a pandemic.

Are you magically able to find one for a Matthew/Mathew Burn/s who died 29 Sep 1846 at Greenwich Union Workhouse? I can't find him in the usual places.

[jonwarrn]

Hi
I can't see him, I'm afraid. Edward Wallis has same GRO reference and he was buried 2 Oct 1846 at St Nicholas Deptford, abode Greenwich Union Workhouse. But Matthew not there.
Sorry
John

[riholt]

Thank you... I'm wondering if he's in the burial records of Greenwich Hospital as he was an out-pensioner who was not long discharged as an in-pensioner for misconduct. The death certificate states he was a Greenwich Pensioner however he went by the name John Dunmore whilst a Royal Marine. An application for one of his children to Greenwich Hospital School reads Ma (which is crossed out) followed by John Dunmore. Another application reads John Buyrn Dunmore.

I didn't get chance to check the registers at my last visit to The National Archives... I was chasing down a lot of other people - him included!