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West Norwood Cemetery - Hennings - Mary & Charles Frederick
« on: Friday 29 May 20 23:45 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I'm looking to find if there is a grave and/or headstone for Mary & Charles Hennings.
Charles died in 1846 & Mary in 1892.

Both buried according to the burial register in West Norwood Cemetery.

I have the grave reference as 62/1286
I have a map of approximately where the gravesite should be if required.

If someone was able to take a photo I would be very appreciative.
I live in Australia.
I have sent an email to archives@lambeth.gov.uk but with no reply.
They are not listed on the burial listing for West Norwood but I know that's where they went.

I would be most appreciative if someone can help or put me in contact with someone who might be able to.

Thanks
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Re: West Norwood Cemetery - Hennings - Mary & Charles Frederick
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 30 May 20 00:24 BST (UK) »
Record Offices are closed at the moment due to the Covid19 virus.  When they reopen there will be quite a backlog to get through

Mary was 102yrs old when she died and appears to have been a wealthy woman as she left over £21,000 when she died

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Re: West Norwood Cemetery - Hennings - Mary & Charles Frederick
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 30 May 20 00:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks, CaroleW,
I guessed that would be the case.
I feel for all the staff and the amount of work they will come back too.
102 was a great age for her and she'd been widowed for 46 years.
With her husbands wealth as well, I would hope they would have had a headstone. They had no children.

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Re: West Norwood Cemetery - Hennings - Mary & Charles Frederick
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 30 May 20 05:32 BST (UK) »
Does your map show whereabouts the grave is located in Square 62? As she was wealthy, I'd expect a posh monument near the path, but this is a heavily overgrown part of the cemetery, and anywhere off the path may be hard to reach until the vegetation dies down in the winter.

I doubt if Lambeth Archives have much in the way of photos, but if no one here offers, I can draw your request to the attention of another Find a Grave volunteer who lives near the cemetery. Normally, I'd go myself, but I'd rather avoid using public transport at the present.
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Re: West Norwood Cemetery - Hennings - Mary & Charles Frederick
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 30 May 20 06:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Chris,

I do have a map with approximately where it is located, it is near a pathway. I could attach to post if I knew how to do that.
I notice you have Anerley on your list.
Mary lived at 78 Thicket Road Anerley prior to her passing.

If someone can tell me how to add an attachment I'll add the maps I have.

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Re: West Norwood Cemetery - Hennings - Mary & Charles Frederick
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 30 May 20 07:33 BST (UK) »
As this is a Lookup forum, attaching photos isn't permitted to stop people showing copyright material, not relevant here, so we'll have to describe it. As the main map of the cemetery is orientated, with East at the top, the path runs from top left to right middle. In the corner above the path and extending to other squares, is a squashed T-shaped area marked "(4) N Rose Garden (not accessible)". Is it on that side of the path or below it? Left, right, or middle should be close enough to find it. On Find a Grave, I've just found a photo of the magnificent Otto Berens tomb in square 63, which seems to be kept very clear of the more normal rampant vegetation, so perhaps a good photo is possible. I don't remember seeing Berens' tomb myself, so maybe this was an area for the very rich that I've never visited -- a pity, or I might have already had a picture.

I'll look for the Thicket Road house later. The road was renumbered several times, but I have a spreadsheet that enables me to find present locations.
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Re: West Norwood Cemetery - Hennings - Mary & Charles Frederick
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 30 May 20 10:19 BST (UK) »
I have just found the Grave of Otto Berens you mention.
The "self-guided walk around West Norwood Cemetery" made it easy to find.
From the map in the guide and the one I have. The Hennings grave/tomb is on the lower or west side from the Berens I believe it could be on the other side of the path.
If Berens is on the east side of the path then Hennings on the west side if that makes sense.

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Re: West Norwood Cemetery - Hennings - Mary & Charles Frederick
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 June 20 00:37 BST (UK) »
I doubt if Lambeth Archives have much in the way of photos, but if no one here offers, I can draw your request to the attention of another Find a Grave volunteer who lives near the cemetery. Normally, I'd go myself, but I'd rather avoid using public transport at the present.
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I'll look for the Thicket Road, house later. The road was renumbered several times, but I have a spreadsheet that enables me to find present locations.
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Hi Chris,
I did get a reply from Lambeth Archives with just a copy of the gravestone card.
I'm wondering if you are able to call upon your Find a Grave volunteer to assist me further.

Also, any chance when you have a moment to look at the 78 Thicket Road House details. I'd be most interested to know more. Mary lived their right up until her death she had several servants & a companion for at least 20 yrs before her death.

Thank you for all your help it is much appreciated.

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Re: West Norwood Cemetery - Hennings - Mary & Charles Frederick
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 June 20 22:16 BST (UK) »
Just as an aside in connection with the house at 78 Thicket Road, Anerley. There is mention of the address for the Tanner family. Their 3 sons attended Dulwich College. Details here for one of the sons, Thomas Lanfear Tanner https://dulwichcollege1914-18.co.uk/fallen/tanner-tl/

Chris, do you think the reference to 78 Thicket Road is correct? You mention there has been renumbering a few times on the road

The family's 1911 census entry here www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW8P-WJC

Added: The family lost all three sons in the WW1:

William Arthur Tanner https://dulwichcollege1914-18.co.uk/fallen/tanner-wa/
Charles Patrick Tanner https://dulwichcollege1914-18.co.uk/fallen/tanner-cp/

Beyond tragic for sure to have lost all three :-\

Monica
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