General Discussion on Current Situation 2/

[Ruskie]

My colleague contracted Covid after being left in the position of refusing care or working without PPE, she could have travelled cross country to family but no, she set up  system where food (microwavable) was delivered contact free, a check in system to ensure help was sent should she worsen, and a list of people to come and get her child should she become completely incapable.  She did consider jumping in the car and driving while ill. They're saying she was irresponsible and did not love her child enough.

My daugher's Grt Uncle died in Co Durham (from Covid), his wife had to grieve alone with phone calls and food deliveries only as support.  They are saying we didn't love them enough to break lockdown because we 'did the right thing'.

It is my friend's husband's funeral next week.  Their daughter cannot be there due to the distance and none of us can go and support her.  They're saying we don't care enough.

Who is accusing you and others of not loving their child enough or not caring enough because they are unable to attend funerals? Seems an odd, unreasonable and judgemental thing to say under the circumstances when all you are doing is following the guidelines to avoid spreading the virus further ....

[groom]

As far as Boris Johnson is concerned the Cumming's affair is over and no matter what the vast majority of the population think he can't or won't accept that he's done wrong. In the briefing today he closed down Robert Peston's question and said he wasn't going to let the two others answer. They have very cleverly twisted the rules to suit them now saying it allows one thing when most of us read it and took it to mean another.

 "for any medical reason, to donate blood, avoid injury or illness, escape risk of harm, provide care or help a vulnerable person"

I guess most of us took the "provide care or help a vulnerable person" as meaning that we could go to them to help them if needed, not that we could take a vulnerable person anywhere we liked to get care. If they had known that I expect thousands of parents, especially single ones, would have left home and taken their children elsewhere. Why was the child considered vulnerable anyway - he is in the very age group that is now being sent back to school? I find it very strange as well that there was no one at all locally they could call on for help if it had been needed. Do they have no friends?

The same with the "avoid injury or illness" So in theory, to avoid illness I could have gone to stay elsewhere in order to avoid crowded places in case I got ill? 

No, we all did exactly as told and didn't look for loopholes.

[groom]

It is my friend's husband's funeral next week.  Their daughter cannot be there due to the distance and none of us can go and support her.  They're saying we don't care enough.

It's not a case of not caring enough - if the law in Scotland is the same as in England at the moment, you couldn't go anyway. The number of people allowed is minimal and restricted to very close family only. I know of a case where a vicar died and the only people allowed at the funeral were his wife and daughters - no relations and certainly no friends.

[antonymark]

No one can really "move on" till they have dealt with unfinished business. The person who should be dealing with this unfinished business is the one urging us to move on. 

Regards 

Chas

There is only one person that needs to "move on" and we all know that is the arrogant, lying hypocrite DC. If BJ really can't bear to be parted from him then he should go too. They could retire to Barnard Castle together.

I think it was the moving on comments that finally pushed me into thumping off an e-mail to my local MP. Very cathartic setting down in writing exactly why I am so angry and clicking 'send'!

Of course I know that it is unlikely to make a real difference and I might as well shout in the wind but crumbs I feel better!

Goodnight all, Tony.

[Skoosh]

Dominic Cummings like other court favourites before him,  the earl of Strafford & Piers Gaveston, it won't end well! 

Skoosh.

[pharmaT]

It is my friend's husband's funeral next week.  Their daughter cannot be there due to the distance and none of us can go and support her.  They're saying we don't care enough.

It's not a case of not caring enough - if the law in Scotland is the same as in England at the moment, you couldn't go anyway. The number of people allowed is minimal and restricted to very close family only. I know of a case where a vicar died and the only people allowed at the funeral were his wife and daughters - no relations and certainly no friends.

My point is that those in power defending Cummings have said that anyone who cares about their loved ones would do the same as he did i.e. break lockdown guidance.  Since we're keeping to lockdown guidance despite it being difficult then effectively those people are saying we don't care enough and that's insulting.

[pharmaT]

My colleague contracted Covid after being left in the position of refusing care or working without PPE, she could have travelled cross country to family but no, she set up  system where food (microwavable) was delivered contact free, a check in system to ensure help was sent should she worsen, and a list of people to come and get her child should she become completely incapable.  She did consider jumping in the car and driving while ill. They're saying she was irresponsible and did not love her child enough.

My daugher's Grt Uncle died in Co Durham (from Covid), his wife had to grieve alone with phone calls and food deliveries only as support.  They are saying we didn't love them enough to break lockdown because we 'did the right thing'.

It is my friend's husband's funeral next week.  Their daughter cannot be there due to the distance and none of us can go and support her.  They're saying we don't care enough.

Who is accusing you and others of not loving their child enough or not caring enough because they are unable to attend funerals? Seems an odd, unreasonable and judgemental thing to say under the circumstances when all you are doing is following the guidelines to avoid spreading the virus further ....

Each and every cabinet member who has gone on live TV and argued that anyone who cared enough about their loved ones would have done the same as DC ie break lockdown.  A complete and utter slap in the face to each and every person who has obeyed the guidelines despite it causing personal heartache.

[tazzie]

Well as of next week I get a little slice of "normality"   back to work at school. We normally have @1800 students but numbers are low so I've only been in a couple of days so far. Year 10 and 12 return first starting on 15th June. I have a fair amount of trepidation over this and still unsure of what to expect. My confidence has taken a hit and patience with some people I have been unfortunate to come across whilst on my daily dog walk has been lacking. We have to stay alert as more people push boundaries we open up new problems.
 Well off for our doggy walk joggers beware.....respect my space.

Tazzie

[Skoosh]

Just been sent a nice photo bearing the legend! "Barnard Castle & Site for Sore Eyes!" 

Skoosh.