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Re: General Discussion on Current Situation 2/
« Reply #54 on: Thursday 28 May 20 09:49 BST (UK) »
Boris Johnson thinks we should all move on, "nothing to see here!" he hopes. This story will run & run as Fatty Johnson has been caught with his sweaty mitt in the tuck-shop cookie jar & denies any involvement!  Fresh revelations are awaited eagerly, there's big money in this & it will probably end up as a musical.  ;D

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Re: General Discussion on Current Situation 2/
« Reply #56 on: Thursday 28 May 20 10:07 BST (UK) »
Just read that the Govt Track and Trace website has crashed already. I think this is the one that tracers use to access and enter info about cases.

(from Sky's Ashish Joshi  -@ashishskynews )

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https://twitter.com/ashishskynews/status/1265910033860222976

Well there's a surprise!

I don't see how the manual system is going to work. If someone tests positive they have to try and remember everyone that they have been less than 2 metres from for 15 minutes or more in the two days before they showed symptoms. The only people that they legitimately might have been in closer contact with would be members of their own household, who would know that the person was positive anyway.
If the infected person had really been abiding by the rules and social distancing there wouldn't be anyone else. If they hadn't, and had travelled to meet with friends / relatives and had closer contact with them, would they tell the contract tracer and admit they had broken the rules? No, they would contact their friends / relatives privately about their positive test.
If they travelled to work on public transport, they may have been closer than two metres to someone, but they are unlikely to know who they are, so no use to a contact tracer.
If they were closer than two metres to someone in the workplace, then either their employer has not implemented social distancing, not enforcing it or the employees are flouting it. The infected person may know names of fellow employees, sometimes only forenames and would be unlikely to know any contact details for them. The infected person might be reluctant to give names in case some legal action was taken against the employer and it could be traced back to him /her.
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Re: General Discussion on Current Situation 2/
« Reply #58 on: Thursday 28 May 20 10:58 BST (UK) »
Thing seem to be getting more complicated rather than easier at the minute! I was wondering about the track and trace - my contact other than husband who I live with and I haven't let him go into shops ( he's older but not in any shielded or health risk group) is limited to whichever supermarket I've been to and I'm limiting that to once a week. Will they fine me by checking my contactless credit card to show I was in the shop at the same time as whoever has been infected or vice versa.

Another question for Gadget- what's the best site to see how the current infections are in the North East. I'm finding a certain North East newspapers reports a little frustrating.
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« Reply #59 on: Thursday 28 May 20 11:08 BST (UK) »
Just back from a Hospital appointment and on the way back I passed one of the large B&Q stores and to say the car park was 3/4 full is an understatement, zero queues outside the building so can only surmise that it must have been pretty busy inside.

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Re: General Discussion on Current Situation 2/
« Reply #61 on: Thursday 28 May 20 11:45 BST (UK) »
https://www.ft.com/content/6b4c784e-c259-4ca4-9a82-648ffde71bf0

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This is the latest updated excess death statistics from the FT which further down the article breaks down the excess deaths by region.

Clear explanation in the article as to why they use this statistic as a measure; what is the basis for the comparison; why we should be looking at it rather than 'just moving on'.

Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex