Lockdown easing in England

[arthurk]

To those who are impatient for life to get back to normal: have you forgotten the message behind this and similar images:

https://www.rotherham.gov.uk/images/The_power_of_social_distancing_graphic.png

Bearing in mind that there is currently no vaccine to protect against Covid-19, and no remedy; also that you could be spreading the virus while unaware that you have it: do you really want to put so many others at risk just so you can feel normal again?

[mazi]

At this moment you cannot get diagnosis or treatment for life threatening illnesses.
The nhs already had a three month backlog, it now has a six month backlog, Many, many more people may die because of this.

As a nation we cannot feed ourselves without imports, if our economy lags far behind the rest of the world we cannot pay for these imports.


Life with 10 million unemployed will not be worth living

Mike

[sugarfizzle]

Sugarfizzle, for the avoidance of doubt I can confirm that I quoted figures for the last seven days including the official figures released today, so these are this week's figures. I did include a link which quotes all of the figures in English and which in turn links to the official Chinese release.

My mistake then, but you seemed to imply the figures were from last week.

Guess the newspapers are reporting fake news again when they say 45 cases have been identified recently in Beijing, and the city is in lockdown. Reuters and The Times also reporting this as well. They must all have got it from the same incorrect source, without fact checking.

Regards Margaret

[jillruss]

Its so easy to get drawn into arguing about all this 2 metres v 1 metre distancing and R numbers stuff but its all hypothetical. The science that BJ insists he is following consists of  many scientists with differing theories. Its not an absolute science. Its heaven-sent for the politicians because they can do what suits them and find a scientist to agree with them.

 I think the important message is that we're all adults and we can make our own minds up.

No amount of rules and advice is going to stop some people 'invading your space' when you're out and about - that's just how it is. Its up to us to make those rational allowances and act accordingly. Unfortunately, as things have panned out, that seems to be the majority of us on here: of a certain age and often with underlying health issues. Younger people seem to be all but immune and so they get on with their lives pretty much as they want. To be honest, if I was in their shoes, I'd probably do the same.

As I'm not in their shoes, I avoid crowds and public transport. Its not much of a hardship for me because I'm not keen on crowds at the best of times.

Protect you and yours and forget all this falling out - our government is not worth the time you are giving them.

[*Sandra*]

Are things really easing up ?  Is it just the care homes that are still struggling ?

A care home in our area has 18 residents, two are currently in hospital due to other conditions, and all but one of those currently in the home has corona virus. Not what you expect to read this far along the line 

Sandra

[Viktoria]

My argument was with  Jomot’s  fifth paragraph, where the saving of the lives  of elderly  people was weighed  against  that of young people———
“At significant cost to the young”..
Well not only the young matter ,we should all matter.
Remember what Captain Tom did , has any young person without the difficulties age brings ,done anything as like much as that?
They will have helped  of course .
I did not say this in my first post but I will now, some people are behaving incredibly selfishly, and I would say Jomot ,by going out and about as you intend  doing ,you are putting your father at risk if you visit him.
Viktoria.
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[BushInn1746]

Hello All

We are currently experiencing UK Summer weather and for those critical of the UK Lockdown (which did allow a daily walk outside) and also feel dictated too, I don't think anyone has got away with this disease yet, we the public especially!

The UK is still desperate to reduce the current huge numbers of those testing Positive daily with Covid-19.

Hospitals have a backlog of non-Covid patients and ...

UK Winter
Can you imagine the coming UK Winter, people catching the usual standard winter cold or flu, whilst also carrying Covid-19 and also coughing and sneezing their cold AND Covid-19 in the air all around them and onto surfaces etc?

If the worst case scenario does occur the UK Winter daily death figures could go crazy again!

Some are looking at the daily death figures lowering and are feeling complacent with Social Distancing and good Hygiene.

I hope it doesn't come back to bite us in the bum, but the estimates are, that it could!

Mark

[jillruss]

That's what they are, though - estimates.

I don't think anyone - however learned - has the first idea of what is going to happen. Its into the unknown... (play the Twilight Zone music...)

[Gadget]

With that...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7NlFWh7Sz8