Lockdown easing in England

[mazi]

Once again I agree with every word Jomot has written,

Mike

[groom]

The reason there were so many deaths in care homes is that people went untested and were sent back there after being in hospital. A typical case is someone whose father was sent to a care home from hospital, became ill within a few hours and was returned to hospital where he was tested and proved positive and died. He should have been tested before being allowed to leave hospital. The care home wasn't informed by the hospital that he'd had Covid 19, so no extra precautions were taken. They lost several more patients and two staff. Deaths were down to lack of testing and bad communication.

What worries me is that places, especially where large crowds can gather, will be opened up too soon due to pressure. That could lead to another spike, with another lockdown which will affect the economy even more. Plus will people be so willing to obey rules next time?

[mazi]

What worries me is that places, especially where large crowds can gather, will be opened up too soon due to pressure. That could lead to another spike, with another lockdown which will affect the economy even more. Plus will people be so willing to obey rules next time?

That is my worry also, so we will forgo our weekend break at a busy hotel if and when they reopen

I think Boris is going for herd immunity by stealth so another full lockdown is unlikely.

Mike

[Flattybasher9]

I see that it has flared up again in parts of China. We may be heading to "Lockdown 2", the sequel.

Malky

[mazi]

I see that it has flared up again in parts of China. We may be heading to "Lockdown 2", the sequel.

Malky

We may indeed, or the virus could mutate to a more deadly form or could weaken to insignificance, the experts don’t know, we don’t know, a vaccine is unlikely any time soon, a cure even more unlikely, lockdown just delays the inevitable.

So, don’t put others at risk, observe social distancing yourself and make the best of it.

Mke

[*Sandra*]

Lockdown release for Prince Charles and Camilla who return to London next week - Prince Charles and President Macron will commemorate the 80th anniversary of General Charles de Gaulle's appeal for French resistance.

Mr Macron will be welcomed to Clarence House by the Prince and Duchess of Cornwall next week, in the first announced engagement for the Royal Family in person since lock down began.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2020/06/12/macron-visit-uk-face-to-face-visits-prince-charles-boris-johnson/

Sandra

[Gadget]

I see that it has flared up again in parts of China. We may be heading to "Lockdown 2", the sequel.

Malky

Just heard it on the news. Very worrying. Apparently some traces of virus were found on a salmon chopping board in a food market..  All workers in the market are being tested.

[Jomot]

What worries me is that places, especially where large crowds can gather, will be opened up too soon due to pressure. That could lead to another spike, with another lockdown which will affect the economy even more. Plus will people be so willing to obey rules next time?

I think to some extent it depends on what a second spike would look like.  Ahead of the the first wave life was carrying on pretty much as normal, so the virus was able to spread rapidly amongst the vulnerable.  Assuming that group continues to largely shelter, then any second wave would circulate mainly amongst the younger/healthier population, resulting in a high infection rate but far fewer hospitalisations etc. 

We are far better placed now to implement the (denied) original plan of sheltering the 'at risk' and building up herd immunity amongst the rest of the population, which might in fact be our only way out of this.

[groom]

I suppose the thinking is that as both Prince Charles and Boris Johnson have had Covid 19, it is fairly safe for them to meet others.