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Re: Lockdown easing in England
« Reply #90 on: Monday 01 June 20 09:15 BST (UK) »
I often wake in the night  and sometimes watch the overnight discussions on the BBC  re issues round the world.

Last night one of the debates re approach of different countries to the virus raised the successfull approach of Kerala, India which I hadn't heard about before http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pj7/

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Re: Lockdown easing in England
« Reply #91 on: Monday 01 June 20 10:11 BST (UK) »
And what was our government's response? Sit back and say "We're three weeks behind Italy" and do very little except tell us to wash our hands and sing "Happy Birthday".
At one point we had a couple of people in York infected who had arrived from China and a handful in Sussex who had come in from Italy. But we continued to let all and sundry into the country from anywhere and everywhere without any checks at all. We gave up testing and tracing people because we didn't have enough tests. Our lockdown came too late in the infection curve compared to most other countries. Lockdown openly flouted from the beginning, police encouraging people to disperse and go home, using fines (a mere £60 then) almost as a last resort. Now this latest easing means that anyone in England at least can go where they like, for as long as they like with the only proviso that they mustn't stay overnight. But we've all seen the pictures of the wild camping. If pictures from Dorset over the weekend are anything to go by, no-one bothers anymore about social distancing. It's not just Durdle, it was West Bexington (where police eventually closed roads) and Bournemouth beach was packed too. Trains down to Bournemouth were reported to be packed on Saturday. Many of the people at Durdle admitted to coming from London, it's around a 3 hour drive at the best of times, in the summer it can take a lot longer, there are no motorways in Dorset. The roads down to most of the small beaches along the Dorset coast are not wide, they're windy and can have blind summits. Three helicopters had to be used to airlift the morons who injured themselves to hospital, resources that should be used for the local community. Two had to be taken all the way to Southampton. An excellent hospital which is currently treating a friend of mine who contracted Covid in early April and many others who are suffering similarly.
Sadly here is one who didn't make it in that hospital
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-52852803
10 years younger than my friend. The slogan "Save the NHS" now seems to have been ditched completely.
Surely the economy could have been restarted without giving the general English public what appears to be total freedom. The police cannot enforce advice and guidelines, only laws.
The new freedoms only start today, so heaven knows what it will be like from now on. I was hoping that with some children back at school, they'll be fewer holidaymakers, but according to a report on the BBC website a survey has shown that almost half the parents of eligible pupils will keep their children at home. So no school again today for some. Another opportunity for a trip to the beach.
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Re: Lockdown easing in England
« Reply #92 on: Monday 01 June 20 11:50 BST (UK) »
I think the PM and the Cabinet have shown just how weak they are and how they have given in to big businesses and sport. I fail to see why sport has to restart at the moment, even behind closed doors - how long will it be before the sports associations are pushing to admit the public? Already on the radio this morning someone from cricket was saying how easy it would be to allow the public into some grounds as they could be segregated. Considering a lot of people think that one of the reasons the virus hit as badly as it did was because sports events weren't closed down quickly enough, why the rush to open them? Shops are demanding to open before the 15th June asking why, if car sales rooms and open air markets can, can't they. I would have thought the answer was simple, the markets are outdoors and car showrooms are hardly likely to be packed with people queuing up to buy a new car, unlike clothes and other shops.

I know the economy has to restart, but not at the risk of a second spike.
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Re: Lockdown easing in England
« Reply #93 on: Monday 01 June 20 12:14 BST (UK) »
Speaking of schools reopening, what's the general opinion on making up for lost time by either holding summer schools or lengthening the summer term to middle of August?

I know the teachers unions would probably be up in arms but, where's the harm in taking an unpecedented step during an unprecedented pandemic, and tagging some of the missed weeks of education onto the end of the term?

After all, I understand that the (over) long summer holidays only came about because children were needed to help bring in the harvest. Times have changed. These days, children just get bored and parents seem to get frazzled. Dare I say it, a lot of teachers have had a rest during lockdown (I know, I know - they work hard) so they shouldn't in all conscience object to - say - an extension into the middle of August.

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Re: Lockdown easing in England
« Reply #94 on: Monday 01 June 20 13:22 BST (UK) »
That would only work if all children went back to school - at the moment parents have the choice whether or not to send them. My feeling (as a retired teacher) is that it will be very much child minding for the next few weeks with less than half the children back. Until social distancing is either reduced or relaxed completely, there just won't be the room in schools for all the children - one "normal class" would need to be split into at least two, so where are you going to put them all?

I would favour all children repeating this school year, starting September, but that probably isn't possible. Failing that, especially in Primary schools, the children staying with their present teacher and just carrying on next year. That way time wouldn't be wasted getting to know children and learning what they can do. Plus I think a lot of children, especially the younger ones, are going to find it very difficult to adjust to school life again, so having a teacher they know, would make it easier.

" a lot of teachers have had a rest during lockdown"  Not true. In fact a lot I know have worked harder. They have had to adapt to finding, planning and presenting lessons on line, marking work that has come in, writing reports, making sure that children who don't have access to computers have paper copies, delivering the work to children etc. My great nephew's teacher has also visited all the children in her class once a fortnight, to make sure they are alright (staying at a distance of course) Most schools have also worked a rota with teachers going into schools a couple of days a week to cover the classes of key workers. Plus of course home schooling their own children. In fact a lot of my ex colleagues have said they will be glad to get back to normal.
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Re: Lockdown easing in England
« Reply #95 on: Monday 01 June 20 13:29 BST (UK) »
Mary Bousted, union leader, was asked about schooling during August in a tv interview yesterday.
She agreed with clubs etc being organised if desired but not by teachers.


Dare I say it, a lot of teachers have had a rest during lockdown (I know, I know - they work hard) so they shouldn't in all conscience object to - say - an extension into the middle of August.

Where's that parapet when you want to dip your head under it?!  ;)


My daughter has worked throughout the crisis.  They were given two days to organise home tuition for those children who were not key workers children.

The school had no holidays except Bank holidays at Easter and worked during the first week of the school  holiday last week but have closed this week to prepare for opening next week.

She is a school leader and during her time in school these last weeks has taught, reviewed, phoned parents, visited families, liaised with social workers and other support workers and more.

Last week, the school received over 40 documents, emails and directives from the government/local government concerned with dealing with the crisis.

Yes, you are right ... unprecedented.
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Re: Lockdown easing in England
« Reply #96 on: Monday 01 June 20 13:38 BST (UK) »
More filthy animals - spitting and assaulting the people whose job it is to try and enforce social distancing guidelines - which are there for their own and everyone's safety.

https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/18487588.staff-spat-abused-bournemouth-beaches/

And there was a repeat on Sunday of Saturday's crowds at Durdle Door, despite roads to both Durdle Door and Lulworth Cove having road closure signs up, people just ignored them. 
I am really worried for friends and family who live and work in the area.

I hope Boris is proud of himself, he as good as encouraged everyone to do as they like.
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Re: Lockdown easing in England
« Reply #97 on: Monday 01 June 20 13:51 BST (UK) »
How did you work that out?
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Re: Lockdown easing in England
« Reply #98 on: Monday 01 June 20 13:55 BST (UK) »
One thing I've just realised over the last few days, I've been getting a lot of junk mail again, that's something I haven't missed.
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