Lockdown easing in England

[LizzieL]

I'm so sorry for you, you must still be devastated by it.

[arthurk]

8 people in Scotland!
People in each household don't have to remain apart from each other.

Sorry you do have to observe social distancing rules-

https://www.gov.scot/news/lockdown-begins-to-ease-in-phase-1/

“From tomorrow, two households will be allowed to meet in outdoor spaces up to a suggested maximum of eight people. However, it is important that physical distancing and hygiene rules are maintained.”

It also states-
“From tomorrow (29 May), one household can now meet up with another outdoors. This can be in one household’s garden, but physical distancing is still required. It is expected households will only meet one other household within the same day and up to a recommended maximum of eight people in the overall group.”

Sorry Guy, you have misunderstood what this means. "Physical distancing" is a phrase that appears elsewhere in the Scottish guidance. Here it isn't a blanket instruction referring to the distance between all individuals in a garden get-together, but shorthand for "following the previously stated guidance on physical distancing". Key elements to this are as follows:

You should stay at home as much as possible. You should only leave the house for very limited purposes, for example:
[all examples snipped except this one]
exercise and other outdoor activity alone or with members of 1 other household at a time

When doing these activities, you should ensure you are 2 metres apart from anyone outside of your household.

Source: https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others/pages/staying-at-home/

You can take part in outdoor recreation alone or with members of your household and/or members of 1 other household at a time, providing that physical distancing of at least 2 metres is maintained between the different households at all times.

Source: https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others/pages/meeting-others-outdoors/

So as long as there is 2m between different households, members of each household can be as close as they like to each other.

That's the position in Scotland. The English guidance is similar:

When you do need to go out, you should follow the guidelines on staying safe outside your home. Most importantly, this includes the key advice that you should stay two metres apart from anyone outside of your household.

Source: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/staying-alert-and-safe-social-distancing/staying-alert-and-safe-social-distancing

All quotes/sources accessed today, but be aware that they can sometimes change.

[Guy Etchells]

8 people in Scotland!
People in each household don't have to remain apart from each other.

Sorry you do have to observe social distancing rules-

https://www.gov.scot/news/lockdown-begins-to-ease-in-phase-1/

“From tomorrow, two households will be allowed to meet in outdoor spaces up to a suggested maximum of eight people. However, it is important that physical distancing and hygiene rules are maintained.”

It also states-
“From tomorrow (29 May), one household can now meet up with another outdoors. This can be in one household’s garden, but physical distancing is still required. It is expected households will only meet one other household within the same day and up to a recommended maximum of eight people in the overall group.”

snipped for brevity

I understand that the social distancing only applied to separate grouping of households and not individuals mixing with other individuals of the same household, and I imagined everyone else understood that, I am very sorry I did not spell that out in words of one syllable

Cheers
Guy

[jillruss]

Whilst you men peck each other's heads over the details of this latest edict from the government, does anyone actually think its going to make any difference whatsoever? Whether you have 6 people, 8 people or the whole of the Dagenham Girl Pipers in your garden for a barbie, it won't matter. People will enjoy themselves at being able to meet up again; children won't understand that they have to stay 2 metres away from grandma and grandpa and the whole thing will be pointless.

We either stay isolated at home or we don't - I don't see that there are any half measures. The track and field sorry, trace thing won't work because nothing this government does seems to work. Its embarrassing. I feel like the whole of the rest of the world are chortling at our ineptitude.

If we're coming out of lockdown - get on with it, give it 2/3 weeks and see what happens (whilst I and people like me stay  away from all these interminable virtual smelly barbies ) It has to be a barbie, apparently: you can't just sit in your garden and not feed the 5,000). If the blessed R rate doesn't go up, then - hallelujah - we're all saved. If it does...well, back to square one!

So, please cease and desist going on and on about the ruddy minutae and either enjoy your barbie or don't. I shall be drinking my glass of Scrumpy Jack on the patio, alone (my choice) unless of course all the barbies remind me of the smell of napalm in the morning, in which case me and Jack will retire to the withdrawing room.

I thank you!

[arthurk]

I understand that the social distancing only applied to separate grouping of households and not individuals mixing with other individuals of the same household, and I imagined everyone else understood that, I am very sorry I did not spell that out in words of one syllable

So why correct Maiden Stone when she said exactly that?

8 people in Scotland!
People in each household don't have to remain apart from each other.

Sorry you do have to observe social distancing rules-

https://www.gov.scot/news/lockdown-begins-to-ease-in-phase-1/

“From tomorrow, two households will be allowed to meet in outdoor spaces up to a suggested maximum of eight people. However, it is important that physical distancing and hygiene rules are maintained.”

etc etc

[jillruss]

And still they go on....please, in the words of that awful song 'Let It Go'!!!

[LizzieL]

I second that

[roopat]

This new rule puts us in a dilemma, son & daughter in law live a few miles from us but they have 3 children so we can't legally meet up with them!  Do they leave the 3 year old at home because he's most likely to not obey the 2 metre rule or do we do a Cummings and bend the rules?  Any thoughts?
Linda

It's my 5 year old granddaughter's birthday next week. She has 2 sisters, aged 8 & almost 2. I'm hoping Grandma & Grandad will be able to see them & their parents next week for the first time in 3 months, as their garden is big enough for us to be 2m apart. (Actually my daughter suggested to be totally sure we could sit on the trampoline to stay away from the toddler  )
Oh no..... That will make 7 of us. I might just have to use my instinct then.....
I suppose we could all drive to Scotland where a group of 8 is allowed (we could just about make it there and back within the day )


Pat

[roopat]

And I see today that South Korea has closed many of the very recently-opened schools etc because of a big spike traced back to a large distribution warehouse just outside Seoul 'thousands of workers being tested' - BBC News website (World section)


So much for something I read on here recently 'there has been no second wave in other countries'


Pat