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1927 Border Crossing from US to Canada by HIRST
« on: Sunday 17 May 20 18:46 BST (UK) »
On 13 October 1927 architect Selwyn Hirst (married to Ada Felton Hirst (nee Leatherdale)), crossed the US Canada border at Bridgeburg. The Canadian Immigration Service monthly summary includes a record of this crossing.
In the bottom row of the extract two columns for him begin
Northern Ontario Building, Toronto
and
686 Academy Street, New York, N.Y.
"Wife"

The rest of the texts I struggle with.
The Northern Ontario Building, Toronto by the architects Chapman and Oxley was completed in 1925
Any help much appreciated.

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Re: 1927 Border Crossing from US to Canada by HIRST
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 17 May 20 19:16 BST (UK) »
Is that faded ink that is stumping you?  You might be following the wrong lines?

Selwyn's lines:

Destination/Employer                      l  Nearest Relative
----------------------------------------------    ----------------------------

"Emp" Chapman & Orley Architects  l   "Wife" Ada
Northern Ontario Bldg Toronto          l  686 Academy St. New York, NY

The faded ink on the next two lines are for the person listed under him, a John Marencin, whose wife looks like Kristina Marencin (very faded ink!)

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Re: 1927 Border Crossing from US to Canada by HIRST
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 17 May 20 19:46 BST (UK) »
Hi, I was very interested to read your post, as Selwyn is quite closely related to me - his father was my great grandmother's brother.

I agree with bbart's deciphering, but can you tell me what your connection to Selwyn is, please? Maybe we could swap notes?

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Re: 1927 Border Crossing from US to Canada by HIRST
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 17 May 20 21:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks for spotting my folly so quickly bbart - I really should have taken much more care. Great result.

To find that I have stumbled so badly and yet made connection with arthurk is a delight. Selwyn's father was Alfred and his sister, Elizabeth.


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Re: 1927 Border Crossing from US to Canada by HIRST
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 17 May 20 21:48 BST (UK) »
No worries, Deskman, a lot of people get tricked by the "spacing".  Basically, the space per entry can allow for three lines.  They wrote really high in the space for the first line of info (call it line 1), and when they could see they only needed one more line for the next bit of info, they wrote at the bottom (call that line 3).  So when multiple entries in a row are written this way, that pesky blank "line 2" makes it look like a natural spacing between people.  It's a common problem on passenger lists as well.

Glad you two can connect... if either of you need/want the death notice for Selwyn's father Alfred, let me know!  (I was cruising the newspapers for him.... still locked in.... bored....)

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Re: 1927 Border Crossing from US to Canada by HIRST
« Reply #5 on: Monday 18 May 20 13:03 BST (UK) »
It's good to make a connection - Deskman and I are now exchanging PM's.

Thanks for the offer of the death notice, bbart - I already have these from the Leeds Mercury and the Yorkshire Post, plus a report on his funeral from the Yorkshire Post. Is yours one of these?

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Re: 1927 Border Crossing from US to Canada by HIRST
« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 May 20 17:26 BST (UK) »
Ah yes, Arthurk,  the one I was reading was from the Yorkshire Post.

There is also an interesting item on Alfred in 1884, schoolmaster from Marsden, in Huddersfield Daily Examiner 21 August 1894.  Apparently he also had a tobacconist shop and was applying for an off beer, licqueur and wine license.  The article was the debate on a few points, one being whether a schoolmaster be allowed such a license.

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Re: 1927 Border Crossing from US to Canada by HIRST
« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 May 20 20:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks - I'd seen other reports of his application, but not this one. I've now found it and downloaded it for myself.