Bell family

[Ngatimoti71]

Hi. I am looking for information on Thomas Bell b 1823. He married Eleanor Crellin who I think had two children from a previous marriage. In the 1861 census his address is listed as Kirk German Cronk Dhoo. Is this an area or settlement? His son William Bell b 1859 Parish German, Isle of Man. He immigrated to New Zealand as a single young man and worked as a carpenter. I believe he worked
with his brother Thomas who had immigrated previously in 1879. William died in Auckland in 1941.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Ngatimoti71

[Brentor boy]

Marriage 9 February 1843. Malew, Isle of Man.
Philip Crellin/ Eleanor  Kinley

[Ngatimoti71]

Thank you for your reply. I appreciate your help.
Ngatimoti71

[KGarrad]

Hi. I am looking for information on Thomas Bell b 1823. He married Eleanor Crellin who I think had two children from a previous marriage. In the 1861 census his address is listed as Kirk German Cronk Dhoo. Is this an area or settlement? His son William Bell b 1859 Parish German, Isle of Man. He immigrated to New Zealand as a single young man and worked as a carpenter. I believe he worked
with his brother Thomas who had immigrated previously in 1879. William died in Auckland in 1941.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Ngatimoti71

German, sometimes Kirk German, is a parish.
Roughly based on Peel where the Cathedral is called Kirk German.

Cronk Dhoo is roughly where Bishop's Palace is.
http://im.geoview.info/cronk_dhoo,475394107n
(Cronk = Hill; Dhoo = Black; in Manx Gaelic)

[KGarrad]

Using www.iMuseum.im I found a baptism for William:

(Received into Church) 29th July 1860, at German
William, son of Thomas Bell (Labourer) and Eleanor (maiden name Crellin)
Abode: Greeba

Manx baptisms almost always show the maiden name of the mother

[trish1120]

Family search has the Marriage;
   
03 Jun 1851 •
German, Isle of Man
Tho BELL, Bachelor, Farmer, Father THO Bell a Farmer
Eleanor KELLY late Crellin, Widow, Father JOHN Crellin a Farmer

[KGarrad]

If I have the correct baptism, then the marriage (to Eleanor Kelly) is wrong?

The baptism shows Eleanor's maiden name as Crellin, not Kelly.

Of course, I may not have the correct baptism - but can't see anything else close?

[trish1120]

From this Census after Thomas is born c 1823 in others much later;
1861
Thomas Bell 39
Eleanor Bell 37
John Kelly   14
Ann Kelly   12
Thomas Bell 7
Eleanor Bell 5
William Bell 3
Margaret J Bell   9 Months

1871
Thomas Bell 39 (1832)***
Eleaner Bell 45
Thomas Bell 17
William Bell 13
Margaret Jone Bell 10
Robert Bell 7
Philip Henry Bell   4

1881
Thomas Bell   50 (1831), Widower
Philip H. Bell   14
Frederick Bell   9
Margaret J. Bell   20

[trish1120]

I'm no expert on Manx Baptism but Crellin was her maiden name.
I think her 1st Husband was Joseph Kelly