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Re: Contact tracing, a rant
« Reply #54 on: Monday 04 May 20 12:56 BST (UK) »
I think you are right Pharma.  The app won’t work as well without increased testing and easier access to it. 
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Re: Contact tracing, a rant
« Reply #55 on: Monday 04 May 20 13:06 BST (UK) »
Just want to make it clear I have no problem with the concept in fact I am all for it in principal and believe it is the only way forward.  I just have some issues with the practicalities of their proposals and don't have sufficient faith in their management of the situation.
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« Reply #56 on: Monday 04 May 20 13:46 BST (UK) »
Maybe the experts can answer this for me.

We are in a queue of cars waiting to turn right, next to me is my passenger with phone switched on.

It’s a long wait, during that time as many as 100 cars pass closely by in the inside lane.

If those drivers have their phone on will that record as within two metres of my passenger.

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« Reply #57 on: Monday 04 May 20 14:19 BST (UK) »
The app notes the distance and duration of contact and I believe it is a minimum contact of about 15 minutes within 2 metres but don't quote me on that.

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« Reply #58 on: Monday 04 May 20 14:33 BST (UK) »
A guess rather than an expert opinion:

I can't comment on the UK app but the Australian one only records information about contact with someone within 1.5 metres for 15 minutes or more.

If people are in traffic beside you and are within this range (and you both have your windows open) it may be that the virus could pass from them to you or your passenger. Some people cough, splutter and spit out of car windows.

It is probably unlikely that all drivers/passengers of the 100 cars in the lane beside you will each stop that close to you for the designated period of time.

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Re: Contact tracing, a rant
« Reply #59 on: Monday 04 May 20 14:42 BST (UK) »
The UK Government App must be special?

A Bluetooth phone has just sent me a photo by Bluetooth over 10 metres away (once I'd had instructions again and my device set up for me again) from outside the house with doors and windows closed.

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« Reply #60 on: Monday 04 May 20 15:05 BST (UK) »
Maybe they are limiting the range or using some sort of proximity technology to get that 1.5m or closer range?  :-\ They use something like this to send ads and special offers for specific shops to your phone as you walk past .... maybe it's something along these lines used in the coronavirus apps?

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« Reply #61 on: Monday 04 May 20 15:30 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Ruskie on Monday 04 May 20 15:05 BST (UK)
Maybe they are limiting the range or using some sort of proximity technology to get that 1.5m or closer range?  :-\ They use something like this to send ads and special offers for specific shops to your phone as you walk past .... maybe it's something along these lines used in the coronavirus apps?

They were talking about length of time in contact so if passing at speed of a car wouldn't trigger but not sure if this is built into this app.
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Re: Contact tracing, a rant
« Reply #62 on: Monday 04 May 20 16:39 BST (UK) »
15 minutes  :o :,  that makes a complete mockery of social distancing outdoors, where, we have been told, a mere casual 10 seconds as someone passes by is sufficient.

I am mystified, I do wonder if governments are clutching at straws, guided by their advisers, none of whom seem to agree.

Can I have a bottle of Madagascan juice please, it’s likely as useful as anything else. ;D ;D

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