Author Topic: Edgar & Dennison - Lower Moybrick, Dromara Co down  (Read 1219 times)

Offline TullindoneyCE

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 8
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Edgar & Dennison - Lower Moybrick, Dromara Co down
« on: Tuesday 28 April 20 20:50 BST (UK) »
My Great Grandfather John Edgar, born 1928, was married to Mary Jane Dennison on 10th Jan 1860. Their son Robert, born on 28th April 1883 married Agnes McCully on 5th Oct 1920. Robert's father John Edgar died on 10th October 1913 aged 85. John's wife Mary Jane died in 1917 aged 73 which would make her birth around 1844. However, the 1901 Census and 1911 Census record Mary Jane's age as 60 and 70 respectively making her birth around 1841.
Mary Jane's father was John Dennison and I have a record of John Dennison's marriage to Mary Sprott on 19th May 1937 at 1st Dromara Presbyterian Church which the Edgar's also attended until the opening of the Reformed Presbyterian Church in 1874.  Trying to confirm if Mary Sprott was Mary Jane Dennison's mother. Also have a record that Grace Faris / Faires / Ferris, wife of Robert Dennison had a son John Dennison born on 1st Nov 1817.  Trying to confirm this is the same John Dennison as Mary Jane's father.
On the Edgar side of the family, I know that John Edgar's father was Hamilton Edgar and was married to Mary Sloan but Hamilton passed away in the early to mid-30's as Mary Sloan got remarried to James Coulter, also of Lower Moybrick, in 1836.  Mary Coulter died in October 1883 and the death registration was signed by her son John Edgar.








Offline TullindoneyCE

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 8
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Edgar & Dennison - Lower Moybrick, Dromara Co down
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 April 20 20:55 BST (UK) »
Just to avoid double searching -  I forgot to mention that John Edgar / Mary Jane Dennison had 15 children of which 13 survived. I have most of these details so looking for their parents families details. 

Offline sam.b

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 176
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Edgar & Dennison - Lower Moybrick, Dromara Co down
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 April 20 12:06 BST (UK) »
Do you have this :
Name
John Edgar
Event Type
Marriage
Event Date
10 Jan 1860
Event Place
Ireland
Event Place (Original)
Dromara, Down, Ireland
Gender
Male
Father's Name
Hamilton Edgar
Spouse's Name
Mary Jane Dennison
Spouse's Gender
Female
Spouse's Father's Name
John Dennison

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1860/09584/5475036.pdf

Offline TullindoneyCE

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 8
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Edgar & Dennison - Lower Moybrick, Dromara Co down
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 April 20 12:29 BST (UK) »
Yes I have that thanks.
Have also established that Hamilton Edgar's wife was in fact Mary Sloan. She remarried in 1836 (after Hamilton's death) to James Coulter a neighbouring farmer in Lower Moybrick.  She died on 19th October 1883 aged 83 - this was just 5 months after her grandson (my Grandfather Robert) was born. Mary Coulter (as she now was) was born in 1800 and the death registration was signed by her son John Edgar (my great grandfather).
Hamilton probably is old than her - maybe born in the 1780's or 1790's.  Everything from the 1800's forward except Hamiltons marriage is pretty clear.


Offline Kiltaglassan

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,879
  • Killary Harbour – a flooded valley 16 km long
    • View Profile
Re: Edgar & Dennison - Lower Moybrick, Dromara Co down
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 April 20 12:39 BST (UK) »


My grandfather Robert Edgar, born 28th April 1883 was married to Mary Jane Dennison on 5th Oct 1920.
 

I think there's a typing error here!

Robert Edgar (of Moybrick) married Agnes McCully (of Closkelt) on 5th October 1920 at Drumgooland Presbyterian Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09275/5358201.pdf

Respective townlands:
https://www.townlands.ie/down/iveagh-upper-lower-half/dromara/moybrick-upper/ (or lower)
https://www.townlands.ie/down/iveagh-upper-lower-half/drumgooland/cloghskelt/

KG
Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

Offline TullindoneyCE

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 8
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Edgar & Dennison - Lower Moybrick, Dromara Co down
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 April 20 12:48 BST (UK) »
Sorry - quite correct!
Mary Jane Dennison married John Edgar on 10th January 1860.  Their son Robert married Agnes McCully in 1920.  Agnes' father was Alexander McCully (born 1873) and her mother was Elizabeth (I think Moore) born 1874.  Elizabeth died from TB on 9th April 1901 aged 27 when Agnes was 5.  Her husband Alexander went to Chicago and Agnes (called Aggie) was brought up by her Uncle Adam McCully and his wife Emma (nee Lauglin).   My father was named after Adam.

Offline sam.b

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 176
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Edgar & Dennison - Lower Moybrick, Dromara Co down
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 29 April 20 13:46 BST (UK) »
Is this their Marriage.
Record Type
Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage
3 Mar 1892
Groom Name
alexander MCCULLY
Bride Name
elizabeth MCCARRON
Church
Drumgooland Church of Ireland
Parish
Drumgooland
Civil District
Banbridge
County
Down

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1892/10620/5869322.pdf

U/1896/34/1006/14/161
Agnes
McCully
15th March 1896
Female
McCarren
Banbridge(pre-1973 Q4)

Offline Kiltaglassan

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,879
  • Killary Harbour – a flooded valley 16 km long
    • View Profile
Re: Edgar & Dennison - Lower Moybrick, Dromara Co down
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 29 April 20 13:50 BST (UK) »

Agnes' father was Alexander McCully (born 1873) and her mother was Elizabeth (I think Moore) born 1874. 

As sam barry has said:

Elizabeth's maiden name was McCarron. Marriage 1892.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1892/10620/5869322.pdf

Agnes born 15th March 1896 at Deehommed, Drumgooland.         #161
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02175/1823579.pdf

Deehommed townland
https://www.townlands.ie/down/iveagh-upper-lower-half/drumgooland/deehommed/

KG
Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

Offline sam.b

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 176
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Edgar & Dennison - Lower Moybrick, Dromara Co down
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 29 April 20 14:26 BST (UK) »
This from: rosdavies.com/SURNAMES/
but I think you already have this:
Hamilton
EDGAR.
Dromara
of Lower Moybrick; husband of Mary Sloan ; father of William b. 12 Oct 1830 & bpt. at Dromara Presbyterian Church ; died before Mar 1836 as Mary remarried