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William Friar / Fryer / Frier of Chester, born circa 1791
« on: Tuesday 21 April 20 17:07 BST (UK) »
I am looking for the baptism and death records for William Fryer / Friar / Frier who married Catherine Briscoe in St Oswald's parish, Chester, in 1808.

They had the following children:

Elizabeth
William
Henry
Ann
John
George
Mary
Jane

Also born in Chester.

He is recorded on the 1841 census as born in the county of Cheshire, and his surname as Frere, though died before the next census. In 1851 Catherine was living in the poor house with her son, also called William Fryer.

Unless I am not checking another possible spelling variation for his surname, I can't find a valid death in Chester for him between the two censuses.

Any help appreciated.
North West, North Wales and Isle of Man:

Ward, Campbell, Cowin, Cowell, Parry, Fryer, Davies, Hughes, Briscoe, Jones, Spencer, Brownbill, Crowfoot, Nield, Randles, Youde

Gozo, Malta:

Apap / De Apapis, Camilleri, Grech, Muscat, Micallef, Custo, De Nasi

Angus, Scotland:

Ormond, Salmond, Cook, MacDonald

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Re: William Friar / Fryer / Frier of Chester, born circa 1791
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 17:17 BST (UK) »
Have you checked the Cheshire Registers on FindMyPast and Deceased Online?
Shepherd, Moran, Bath, Keating, Putt - Chester
Trussell - Flint / West Bromwich
Hughes - Flint / Oakenholt
Challinor / Chaloner - Chester / Wirral / Hawarden / Holt
Reynolds - Chester
Edwards - Rossett / Pulford
Strange - Chester / Shropshire
Bayliss - Rossett / Allington / Pulford

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Re: William Friar / Fryer / Frier of Chester, born circa 1791
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 17:24 BST (UK) »
In 1851 Catherine Fryer is shown as 'Marr.' not a widow!

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Re: William Friar / Fryer / Frier of Chester, born circa 1791
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 17:32 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Shep on Tuesday 21 April 20 17:17 BST (UK)
Have you checked the Cheshire Registers on FindMyPast and Deceased Online?

Family search, Findmypast, Deceased Online. Found a death of a William Fryer aged 81 in 1840 in Chester but this can't be the right William.
North West, North Wales and Isle of Man:

Ward, Campbell, Cowin, Cowell, Parry, Fryer, Davies, Hughes, Briscoe, Jones, Spencer, Brownbill, Crowfoot, Nield, Randles, Youde

Gozo, Malta:

Apap / De Apapis, Camilleri, Grech, Muscat, Micallef, Custo, De Nasi

Angus, Scotland:

Ormond, Salmond, Cook, MacDonald

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Re: William Friar / Fryer / Frier of Chester, born circa 1791
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 17:46 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Annette7 on Tuesday 21 April 20 17:24 BST (UK)
In 1851 Catherine Fryer is shown as 'Marr.' not a widow!

Annette

Thanks Annette, you're right. Must have been mistranscribed on Family Search.
North West, North Wales and Isle of Man:

Ward, Campbell, Cowin, Cowell, Parry, Fryer, Davies, Hughes, Briscoe, Jones, Spencer, Brownbill, Crowfoot, Nield, Randles, Youde

Gozo, Malta:

Apap / De Apapis, Camilleri, Grech, Muscat, Micallef, Custo, De Nasi

Angus, Scotland:

Ormond, Salmond, Cook, MacDonald

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Re: William Friar / Fryer / Frier of Chester, born circa 1791
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 17:50 BST (UK) »
I think the Catherine and William in 1851 (paupers) are actually your couple as William is shown as married too.

Looks like she was a few years older than him - 73 in 1851, he 64 in 1851 (both shown as 50 1841).

Their deaths:

William Fryer Sept.1855 Great Broughton - aged 68

Catherine Fryar Jun.1860 Great Broughton - aged 81.

Great Broughton being the registration district for the poor house.

So, William Fryer bc.1787 and Catherine bc.1779.

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Suffolk - Grist, Knights, Bullenthorpe, Watcham
Scotland - Spence, Horne, Cowan, Moffat
London -  Monk

Don't walk behind me, I may not lead.   Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow.   Just walk beside me and be my friend.

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Re: William Friar / Fryer / Frier of Chester, born circa 1791
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 17:54 BST (UK) »
His age in 1851 transcribed as 54, not 64, but think this is an error.   The figure transcribed as '5' does not look like the other '5's' on the page and sure it should be a '6' as the death entry in 1855 would seem to confirm.

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Suffolk - Grist, Knights, Bullenthorpe, Watcham
Scotland - Spence, Horne, Cowan, Moffat
London -  Monk

Don't walk behind me, I may not lead.   Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow.   Just walk beside me and be my friend.

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Re: William Friar / Fryer / Frier of Chester, born circa 1791
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 17:55 BST (UK) »
In that case, he’s buried in Overleigh. Died age 68 in the House of Industry 17 Aug 1855.
Buried in paupers mass grave 20 Aug1855.
Shepherd, Moran, Bath, Keating, Putt - Chester
Trussell - Flint / West Bromwich
Hughes - Flint / Oakenholt
Challinor / Chaloner - Chester / Wirral / Hawarden / Holt
Reynolds - Chester
Edwards - Rossett / Pulford
Strange - Chester / Shropshire
Bayliss - Rossett / Allington / Pulford

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Re: William Friar / Fryer / Frier of Chester, born circa 1791
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 19:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks all, William being Catherine's husband rather than son, makes sense as there is a relevant death for their son William in 1828.

As for the birth record for the older William. Any finds?
North West, North Wales and Isle of Man:

Ward, Campbell, Cowin, Cowell, Parry, Fryer, Davies, Hughes, Briscoe, Jones, Spencer, Brownbill, Crowfoot, Nield, Randles, Youde

Gozo, Malta:

Apap / De Apapis, Camilleri, Grech, Muscat, Micallef, Custo, De Nasi

Angus, Scotland:

Ormond, Salmond, Cook, MacDonald
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