Monaghan

[jordanamelia]

Thank you very much for all of your responses. Today I've been rather puzzled - had a phone call with my Grandma to speak about Sadie, she remembers Sadie being "quite a bit" older than Eddie (Edward) when they married, and my Mum thinks she was in her 40s when Alan (her Dad) was born. I said I'd found 'Sarah Lowe' dying in Barton in 1974, with the birthday as 18 Nov 1919 - my Grandma said this was definitely her. Now the marriage certificate says Edward Lowe was 23 and next to Sadie Monaghan I believed it to be 23 also, but now my Grandma believes it says 33. Either way - if 33 in 1945, she would have been born in 1912, if she was 23 she would have been born in 1922... I've searched ScotlandsPeople for a Sarah and a Sadie Monaghan between 1911 and 1914 and there is no one with the father of William Monaghan, so I'm extremely confused at the moment. I'm about to search further back assuming she may have been in her 40s and see what comes up if not then perhaps 1919 Sadie/Sarah is her and for some reason there has been confusing in records with her birth year. She also told me that she had a brother 'Alan/Alen Monaghan' who had come to Urmston/Davyhulme with her, who married a Pauline and they had twins, I'm about to set out to look into him now, and initially before I was puzzled about birth year - if the 1919 Sarah is her then she must have gone with her father's family if she has a brother named Alan/Alen?

Sorry for the long winded message, this just got a bit confusing today! Will post a photograph of the marriage certificate and see what you think on the written ages if possible

[jordanamelia]

Another thing she spoke to me of is that Sadie was taught by nuns or went somewhere where nuns were in charge and it was known she'd had a horrid experience in this time, not sure if these were a type of school I could look into or not

[Kloumann]

I think the Alan Monaghan is a 'red herring' Have a look for a marriage.

[Kloumann]

I can rule out the Sarah from Scotland now.
She married in 1946 in Dunfermline to Edward Burke & died, Dunfermline in 1986.
Her age given at death was 72 which does not match her actual birth but the MMN is McKenna.

[Forfarian]

If the Sarah from Scotland is not yours, how do you account for the fact that the DoB on Sarah Monaghan's birth certificate, 18 November 1919, exactly matches the DoB on the death certificate of Sarah Lowe?

Sarah Monaghan or Burke was 72 when she died in 1986. This means that the DoB on her death certificate is in 1913 or 1914.

There are two births of Sarah Monaghans in Scotland in 1913/1914. One in Dalziel and one in Troqueer.

There is a marriage of Christopher Monaghan to Mary McKenna in Dalziel in 1911. Mary McKenna, wife of Christopher Monaghan, died in Dunfermline in 1930, aged 36. Christopher Monaghan, widower of Mary McKenna, died in Dunfermline in 1952.

Therefore I don't think that the Sarah Monaghan or Burke who died in Dunfermline in 1986 aged 72 is the one who was born on 18 November 1919. You need to check the details on her marriage certificate or death certificate if only to eliminate her.

[Kloumann]

Of course, you are right, Forfarian. The only way to confirm it is for Jordanamelia to apply for the Certificate(s)

[jordanamelia]

Thank you I will apply for the death death certificate. Her marriage certificate I will post a photograph of tomorrow to show the written ages to see what I mean about the 23/33 issue. I've found an electoral register for Urmston which is the area the family lived and my Grandma remembers meeting her Sadies brother.

[Kloumann]

Hi Jordanamelia.
Not sure if you are aware or not but it is the policy of Rootchat not to post about persons who may still be alive.
I would advise you to remove some of your last post unless you know that they are deceased.

I had my knuckles rapped soon after joining.

[jordanamelia]

Ok thanks have changed it