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Joseph Johnston, died Nov 24, 1913, Belfast, inquest
« on: Wednesday 15 April 20 01:12 BST (UK) »
Hello,
I have been tracking Joseph Johnston, son of Andrew Johnston of Co. Tyrone whose father was Joseph Johnston, of Urbal, Parish of Tamlaght.  Fairly sure I have followed him correctly. I did not find his birth in Co. Tyrone. However, Andrew, a carpenter, was first married to Nancy Wallace in Co. Tyrone in 1860 and Nancy died Apr 15, 1871. Andrew remarried in 1875 to Rachel Lennox of Aughrim at Wood's Chapel. Andrew and Rachel had a son John Lennox Johnston June 1, 1876 who died Mar 22, 1913. Lennox's obit mentioned a brother Joe. So I went in search of Joe. With luck, I found a Joseph Johnston in Magherafelt, wife Annie in 1901 and he was from Co. Tyrone. I found Joseph's marriage to Annie Moore in 1885, and he was the son of Andrew, a carpenter. Bingo!
Joseph moved to Shankill by 1911 and I found this death Nov 24,1913. On Nov.25, there was an inquest. Is there any way to find out the results of the inquest? Would there be personal details in the inquest? Would there be an obit? My subscription to British Newspaper Archive expired yesterday.
Thanks for any help
Peggy
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Re: Joseph Johnston, died Nov 24, 1913, Belfast, inquest
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 April 20 01:57 BST (UK) »
His burial record - along with other JOHNSTON members is recorded on the Belfast City Council site - https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialSearch.aspx?GraveSection=F4&GraveNumber=363&CemeteryName=Dundonald%20Cemetery . Each record (4 in No)  can be downloaded for £1.50 from this site.  The details on the records give quite a bit of information.

Bill

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Re: Joseph Johnston, died Nov 24, 1913, Belfast, inquest
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 April 20 01:58 BST (UK) »
The inquest was reported in a number of papers.

"Mr. A. C. Leitch, Coroner, Tuesday evening held an inquest touching the death of Joseph Johnston, blacksmith, Fivemiletown, aged fifty, who, according to the evidence, got up out of bed, and, falling on the floor, expired immediately. The jury returned a verdict, in accordance with the medical testimony, that the death occurred suddenly from cardiac failure."
 Derry Journal , Friday 28 November 1913

and more detail:
"Mr. A. C. Leitch, coroner, Omagh, held an inquest at Fivemiletown on the 25th inst. touching the death of Joseph Johnston, aged 52, blacksmith. From the evidence it appeared that the deceased complained of pains when he went to bed on Wednesday night. He wakened up in the middle of the night and took some whisky. He refused his breakfast on Thursday morning and in the evening said he was unable to rise. There were three empty half-pint whisky bottles in the room. When attempting to rise he collapsed, and before assistance could be brought  he was dead. The jury found that death was due to cardiac failure."

 Belfast News-Letter,  Thursday 27 November 1913

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Re: Joseph Johnston, died Nov 24, 1913, Belfast, inquest
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 April 20 02:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks ever so much, Bill and maddys52. I will have to purchase the burial record. The inquest is very interesting and I do thank you so very much for sending it. It is a bit puzzling though, as it has the right name and the right date, but Joseph was a carpenter age 70 who died in Belfast. The details fit the scenario as he had an inquest the day after death and the death record speculated that it was heart disease but the coroner was supposed to be James Graham. I guess the papers got it wrong.
Peggy
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Groves - Co. Derry, Ireland


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Re: Joseph Johnston, died Nov 24, 1913, Belfast, inquest
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 April 20 02:46 BST (UK) »
Not on my computer now (have to share with OH these days!) so can't look it up, but possibly not the same person? Was yours at Fivemiletown? I think I also saw an article a week or so earlier about a Joseph JOHNSTON assaulting wife Sarah, which would fit with the burial Bill found.

Be strange to have 2 deaths with the same name on the same day though. :-\

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Re: Joseph Johnston, died Nov 24, 1913, Belfast, inquest
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 15 April 20 02:59 BST (UK) »
Well, you are not going to believe this. I bought the burial record referring to the Joseph who died Nov 24, 1913 on 28 Farnham St. Then I decided to buy the burial record of Sarah Johnston even though his wife should be Annie. Sarah died at 28 Farnham Street and daughter Julia was present. What??? They didn't have a daughter Julia. So I went to the 1911 census and found Joseph, Sarah and Julia at 28 Farnham St.  NOT my Joseph even though he was a carpenter as well and born in Cookstown. Joseph was 65 on the 1911 census so would be approx. 70 when he died in 1913.
So back to searching for my Joseph, carpenter, born abt 1862 in Co. Tyrone, wife Annie nee Moore. My Joseph would only be only abt. 51 in 1913 so  fits the age of the Joseph whose inquest you found, but he was not a blacksmith and I guess he didn't die in 1913.
Glad to find out that I had found the wrong person but will be even happier when I find the right person.
Peggy
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Re: Joseph Johnston, died Nov 24, 1913, Belfast, inquest
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 April 20 02:57 BST (UK) »
Back on my computer now.  :)

Yes, there appears to be a Joseph JOHNSTON, blacksmith born c 1862 in Clabby Lane, Fivemiletown with mother Mary and siblings in 1901 and 1911.

Is this your Joseph JOHNSTON in Garden Street, Magherafelt, Londonderry born c1863, joiner, with wife Annie and 7 children? Religion - Christian Brethren.

Oh, sorry, I see in your opening post you have this, and the 1911.

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Re: Joseph Johnston, died Nov 24, 1913, Belfast, inquest
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 April 20 03:18 BST (UK) »
Yes the one on Garden Street in 1901 is mine. 1911 he has moved to Shankhill. In 1913, he attends his brother’s funeral near Magherafelt. Then I don’t know what happened to him. I moved too quickly when I saw that death for Joseph Johnston  in 1913 in Belfast as a Carpenter because he was not mine and I should’ve noticed the age. My Joseph was born in 1862 so would be 51 in 1913 not 70. Weirdly enough that was the age for the Joseph that you found in the newspaper even though the death record said 70. I have to wonder if he immigrated because I looked for the children individually and didn’t find any of them. In 1911 Joseph has a niece and nephew named Johnston, living with him and I was able to figure out that Joseph’s wife Annie  Moore’s sister Sarah Moore  married a David Johnston and that is how Joseph becomes their uncle. Joseph and David are not brothers and I don’t know if there is a family connection there or not. I looked for David’s children individually as well and didn’t find them except for the two that were living with Joseph in 1911 . David’s wife Sarah Moore died in 1887.
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