UK request for help - Charles MYERS

[spades]

Hi Minniehaha,

From the obituary it's seems clear that Charles served in the Crimea in the Naval Brigade, was discharged, and then emigrated to New Zealand 'in 1866'.

This conflicts with the 3rd Waikato Regiment record for their Charles MYERS which says he enlisted on '24 November 1863 in Nelson'.

Unless the date given in Charles' obituary is inaccurate we might be looking for a different Charles MYERS entirely!

Spades

[minniehaha]

I will happily leave all the military stuff in your very capable hands Spades, as I know nothing whatsoever about the subject.    


Minniehaha.

[spades]

Ha, nor do I from the look of it

Information sheet about the Naval Brigade.
http://www.royalnavalmuseum.org/research_infoNavalbrigadesinfosheet.html

The Victorian Naval Brigades.
https://www.amazon.com/Victorian-Naval-Brigades-L-Bleby/dp/190444525X

The Crimean War - Naval and Marines Medal Roll.
https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/collections/18/the-crimean-war-naval-and-marines-medal-roll
I can't find him listed.

The Victoria Crosses of the Crimean War: The Men Behind the Medals.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pc2/

Spades

[Fresh Fields]

Michael. It is the success of this family that makes sifting through the NZ press of the period you are interested in difficult. Will see if I can find something similar on the Nelson Myers of that period.

https://teara.govt.nz/en/biographies/3m66/myers-arthur-mielziner

Alan.

ADDED
MYERS Nelson.

http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-Cyc01Cycl-t1-body-d4-d11-d22.html

Evidence of MYERS & COHEN in business in Nelson 1869

Mrs Cato nee MYERS 1869

MYERS Southland.

http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-Cyc04Cycl-t1-body1-d7-d19.html
Evidence of MYERS & COHEN in business in Nelson 1869

Lewis MYERS Auckland, importing Tobacco 1871

Plenty of travel movements between Victoria and South Australia for MYERS.

[spades]

Hi Michael,

Your Charles was born at Whitechapel, London in 1837, while the Charles MYERS of the 3rd Waikato Regiment was born at Spitalfields, London c'1835. These two suburbs are adjacent to each other, and the years of birth are a close match. I suspect both refer to the same man.

I think it is more likely that if your Charles served in the 'Maori War' it was in the 3rd Waikato Regiment, and not as an Imperial soldier of the 43rd Light Infantry (because that Charles Myers hailed from the wrong place and had a less likely occupation).

If this is correct your Charles was already in New Zealand (in Nelson) in late 1863.

What do you think?

Spades

[minniehaha]

His birth:

MYERS, CHARLES       LEVY **
GRO Reference: 1837  S Quarter in THE WHITECHAPEL UNION  Volume 02  Page 255

**Mother's maiden name.

A twin?

MYERS, MOSES       LEVY 
GRO Reference: 1837  S Quarter in THE WHITECHAPEL UNION  Volume 02  Page 255


Minniehaha.

[Fresh Fields]

Archives lookups when open again, if not previously mentioned.

Auckland look up [added to my list]
R22423827  Louis MYERS. Application for Hikutaia Bush license 1873.

Wellington look up.
R24104358  From: Lieut Colonel Moule, Hamilton Date: 16 February 1867 Subject: With claim for washing, etc, hospital bedding Cambridge (Ellen Myers £2.6.3 and a half)
 
Maori War service
R22350970  MYERS Phillip;   R22361289  MYERS John;   R22361388  MYERS Samuel.

Alan.

[minniehaha]

Just throwing these events into the mix........

MYERS, SAMUEL       LEVY
GRO Reference: 1846  D Quarter in WHITECHAPEL UNION  Volume 02  Page 607

Death:

1864/5120   Myers   Samuel   19Y

[Where did this Samuel die?]

Minniehaha.

[Michael Hammerson]

I looked for Samuel Myers, died age 19 in 1864 in Whitechapel, on the Free BMD site, which is pretty comprehensive, but couldn't find him.
Michael