UK request for help - Charles MYERS

[minniehaha]

Is this the Samuel Myers said to have been born in New Zealand in 1868?

Death [1950] of New Zealand born Samuel Myers…….

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/44919276?searchTerm=%22samuel%20myers%22&searchLimits=exactPhrase=samuel+myers|||anyWords|||notWords|||requestHandler|||dateFrom=1920-01-01|||dateTo|||sortby

Death & funeral notices:

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/131133696?searchTerm=%22samuel%20myers%22&searchLimits=exactPhrase=samuel+myers|||anyWords|||notWords|||requestHandler|||dateFrom=1950-01-01|||dateTo=1950-12-31|||l-advstate=South+Australia|||l-advcategory=Family+Notices|||l-advcategory=Obituaries|||sortby

Cemetery details:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/19209653/samuel-myers

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/19197488/leah-myers

Death notice [1939] for Leah Myers, his wife:

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/92429091?searchTerm=%22leah%22&searchLimits=exactPhrase=leah|||anyWords|||notWords|||requestHandler|||dateFrom=1939-04-01|||dateTo=1939-04-30|||l-advstate=South+Australia|||sortby

This birth has already appeared on the forum. I wonder if the father's name is incorrectly shown/recorded? Ellen's maiden name was Samuel.

1868/13126   Myers   Samuel   Ellen     Samuel

[This is the only birth I could find for Ellen & Samuel.]

Minniehaha.

[mckha489]

Surely that certificate for the 1868 birth would show where they were living then?

What does it say?

[Fresh Fields]

Morning - but must to bed.

#44 and original post, already offered by PM a look-up for Michael, once we have been unshackled.

#46 data recorded has changed over time and legislation updates.

Regards,

Alan.

NOTE.  Informant could be a relative, or even a hospital orderly. {Particularily with deaths} So the usual residence, you are looking for, may not be recorded.

[Michael Hammerson]

Minniehaha - reply 45,
I think there is a good chance that it's the correct Samuel Myers. His father Charles, who I am pursuing, died at the residence of his son (doesn't say which of the four, unfortunately) on 26th July, 1920, but the address is given as 40 Finnies Street, not 114  - so possibly one of the other sons. Does anyone there have access to a 1920 Adelaide directory to resolve the question?

Michael

[minniehaha]

Part quote from reply #47....

"NOTE.  Informant could be a relative, or even a hospital orderly. {Particularily with deaths} So the usual residence, you are looking for, may not be recorded."

The point Mckha was making was that the place of birth would be recorded at registration.

The birth would have been at home but maybe not at the usual residence of the parents. Also in this case we cannot be 100% certain that the 1868 birth is that of the Samuel Myers being sought. However I suspect it is but that there has been a mis-recording of the name of the father.

Michael, if ordering a record of this birth, do request a printout* as they are cheaper and may contain more information than a certificate. Also can be e-mailed.

*They are what I would call a photocopy of the original registration entry.

I have many of these printouts and in all but two, the father has been the informant.

I would also add that "the signature of the informant" is a little misleading as the printouts I have for the 1860's are entirely written in the same hand, including that of the informant, their occupation and address.

Minniehaha.

[Fresh Fields]

Agreed Minniehaha.

But as we recently learnt, some of the early registers ledgers are now restricted for preservation, and the COPY recieved is now a later typed version off the original.

The original registrations that I've looked up, of that period [1860's], were written by the Court registrars, Local Post Official clerk, or Government agency, so all in one hand, as you scroll down the enteries.

One was even registered by the local priest.

Alan.

[Fresh Fields]

Not experienced doing advanced searches on TROVE but finally found the following re 40, & or 114, Finnis Street Adelaide.

NEWS [Adelaide, South Australia]

December 1st p17; 8th p8 & 9th page 6, 1927;
Articles about an exhibition of cut glass at the home of Mrs Sam MYERS 114 Finnis Street Adelaide. The latter two have more words.

April 29th page 2 & May 1st page five 1920;
Details of the death of Woolf COHEN brother in law of, Mr S MYERS 40 Finnis Street, Adelaide.

Alan.

PS forwarded screen shots of abstracts to Michael. Not sure about copyright, so have not posted to the thread.

[minniehaha]

Not experienced doing advanced searches on TROVE but finally found the following re 40, & or 114, Finnis Street Adelaide.

NEWS [Adelaide, South Australia]

December 1st p17; 8th p8 & 9th page 6, 1927;
Articles about an exhibition of cut glass at the home of Mrs Sam MYERS 114 Finnis Street Adelaide. The latter two have more words.

April 29th page 2 & May 1st page five 1920;
Details of the death of Woolf COHEN brother in law of, S MYERS 40 Finnis Street, Adelaide.

Alan.

Direct links:

1.12.1927……

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/129187724?searchTerm=%22sam%20myers%22&searchLimits=exactPhrase=sam+myers|||anyWords|||notWords|||requestHandler|||dateFrom=1927-01-01|||dateTo=1927-12-31|||l-advstate=South+Australia|||sortby

29.4.1920…..

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/62627414?searchTerm=%22woolf%20cohen%22&searchLimits=exactPhrase=woolf+cohen|||anyWords|||notWords|||requestHandler|||dateFrom=1920-01-01|||dateTo=1920-12-31|||l-advstate=South+Australia|||sortby

Minniehaha.

[Fresh Fields]

Thanks Minniehaha, and also AMBLY whom I saught advice from.  Alan.