Sarah Barden

[..claire..]

Just spotted this marriage

29 May 1720 Shermanbury

John Snashall and Elizabeth Bardin

Wonder if this is Thomas's sister and mother of Mary Snashall

The James Juniper mentioned in Thomass Will had a wife Sarah

James Juniper married Sarah Snashall 1st April 1749 Lewes.

Claire

[jonwarrn]

Hi
I think most or all of the other relatives named in the will are going to be from Snashall or Simmons lines. Leaving the possibility that there might be only those four nieces who were originally Barden?
Possibly all from one brother, but can't be sure.

I wouldn't worry too much about the Sarah Barden will at the moment, it doesn't seem to be immediately helpful, and could be a red herring.

Another possible red herring
There are two Sarah Baden baptisms in Balcombe, 12 Oct 1735, and 13 March 1736/7.
No parents being named there at the time!
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D1VS-SK9

[..claire..]

Thats a good find Jon. What a shame no parents listed.


Thomas Willets (in Thomas Will) wife  Sarah (another niece) was a Symmons (or variant). This couple married in Cuckfield 1761 - have only a Banns date to confirm this.

The Symmons family lived and were born in Cuckfield. Father was a Walter Symmons and his wife Sarah Barden - who married in Cuckfield 16 April 1730.

And there are quite a few BARDENS in Cuckfield that we should possibly checkout.

Claire

[MattD30]

Hi guys

Thanks for all those useful suggestions posted on Thursday. For some odd reason I didn't get any email notifications so it was a good job I looked at the board to see if anything new was on here.

I haven't come across that Sarah Barden will myself. It could well be a red herring or completely the wrong family but I think it may still be worth looking at.

I have a distinct feeling we're getting somewhere with this lot now. I can certainly see connections and matterns forming in the family groups.

Also I do like Claire's idea that the marriage of Francis Bardin and Ann Page does fit here if they were both widowed. It would make sense if Francis was the brother of Thomas and father [via a different wife] of Sarah Barden [niece of Thomas]. This would certainly explain why there is a "Page" witness [Richard Page I think] on Thomas' will. I've seen some wills for the Page family so I am going to compare the signatures on those to this to see if I can prove this connection.

Of course if we're correct about the Bardin-Page marriage, we still have the question of who was Sarah's mother.

I think this is coming together slowly, bit by bit.

Matt

[MattD30]

Hi Matt and John,

Might be my age but I'm a bit confused   

I don't think the issue of Sarah's marital status at marriage was ever mentioned.

The Page family were introduced by my theory that Sarah (Barden) may have been the daughter of Francis PAGE and his wife Ann. When Francis Page died his widow Ann Page went on to marry a Mr Barden. My theory being that Sarah may have taken the Barden surname on as her own once her mother remarried in Fletching.

So the Page theory could be correct by my thinking.

Best wishes
Claire

Hi Claire

Just going through my Page-Bardin notes and trying to re-draw the tree as I lost my tree created from all the work we did on this. I was looking through all the comments and posts here and I have no idea where the idea that Sarah was a widow came from lol! I have the marriage for her to John Botting and she is clearly a spinster.

Where did I get that idea from? My only thought is that I had mixed her up with another Sarah.

I think we were right with the work on the Homewood/Page/Bardin families etc.

It just goes to show - never doubt yourself when you're onto a breakthough.

Happy 2023.

Matt

[MartinGM]

I have read right through this great piece of detective work.
I didn't see any christening of Sarah Page / Bardin . . . did I miss that, or has it not been found ?
Thanks