Sarah Barden

[MattD30]

Those four nieces he names together, including Sarah Botten, might be sisters?
Ann, wife of John Marten, Mary Barden, and Elizabeth, the wife of Richard Marten, are the other three.
Remembering that a Richard Marten was a witness at the John Botting - Sarah Barden marriage.
Jon

One of the witnesses to the will was a Richard Page. Could he be related to the Francis Page who married Ann Homewood [see the reply posted by Claire above]? After Francis died it looks like Ann [ass Ann Page] married John Bardin in 1741 in Fletching.

Are these people all connected?

Matt

[jonwarrn]

Hi
Well he could be. Or it could be a coincidence. I'm having trouble finding any parish records for Lindfield.
In Balcombe there is a Richard Page baptism (1724), a marriage (1746) and a burial (1791), are they all the same person?
I'm also having trouble finding a burial for Thomas Barden in 1780!

[..claire..]

Hi

Well done Jon  - good finds indeed 

Thomas Barden was buried 15 March 1780 Balcombe, Sussex.

Like you struggling with records for Lindfield, it's records are a bit thin on the ground.

Claire

[MattD30]

Hi
Well he could be. Or it could be a coincidence. I'm having trouble finding any parish records for Lindfield.
In Balcombe there is a Richard Page baptism (1724), a marriage (1746) and a burial (1791), are they all the same person?
I'm also having trouble finding a burial for Thomas Barden in 1780!

Looks like you and I are both looking up the same details lol!

I can't see the PR or any BTs for Lindfield online for the right dates yet.

I did find a burial for Thomas Barden - 15 March 1780 at Balcome

The record can be seen here

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2QW-DNF8

I'm trying to see if I can find his christening and christenings/marriages for his siblings. The aim is to see if I can find those nieces he mentioned.

I am wondering if Thomas is related to the John Bardin who married Ann Page [previousy Homewood] mentioned in those earlier messages.

They may not be related of course, but if those girls mentioned by Thomas are his nieces then he must have had at least one brother.

Matt

[MattD30]

Hi

Well done Jon  - good finds indeed 

Thomas Barden was buried 15 March 1780 Balcombe, Sussex.

Like you struggling with records for Lindfield, it's records are a bit thin on the ground.

Claire

Yep I found the burial too. That's certainly him. Currently looking for his christening and any siblings. If I can track his relatives down it may help get me somewhere.

It is..... intreguing.

Matt

[jonwarrn]

Well done you two for finding the burial of Thomas.
There is an Anne Barden buried there just a short while earlier, 19 Feb 1780. Did Thomas ever have a wife?
Not many Barden wills to look at!
One for Sarah Barden, spinster of Heathfield, in 1769.
She may be unconnected, and doesn't mention lots of Barden nieces and nephews, but she does name a brother Thomas, and a sister Ann, so here it is just in case!
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DR67-N3L

[MattD30]

Well done you two for finding the burial of Thomas.
There is an Anne Barden buried there just a short while earlier, 19 Feb 1780. Did Thomas ever have a wife?
Not many Barden wills to look at!
One for Sarah Barden, spinster of Heathfield, in 1769.
She may be unconnected, and doesn't mention lots of Barden nieces and nephews, but she does name a brother Thomas, and a sister Ann, so here it is just in case!
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DR67-N3L

I think I'm looking at too many wills and PR entries tonight I just tried to view the 1769 will for Sarah Barden and I keep getting an Error message from Familysearch lol!

Will look again tomorrow.

Matt

[MattD30]

Just spotted something else after taking another look at that will Jon found.

In it, Thomas mentions his niece "Mary the wife of James Turner". Well it looks like this could well be their marriage:

James Turner and Mary Snashall - married at Balcombe on 2 July 1778. It certainly fits with the dating  of the will. The image can be seen here

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D1VS-M9Q?i=218&cc=1465706

I wonder if Turner or Snashall may be the maiden names of Thomas wife [if he mentioned one]? Alternatively there could be another Barden marriage between one of his siblings and one of those.

Snashall is an unusual name so it may be worth investigating that name more. Maybe Thomas or Mary left a will.

What do you all think?

Matt

[..claire..]

Hi Matt and John

I'd seen the Snashall marriage but left it at that with Jon's breakthrough.

A thought:

What if the John Bardin and Ann Page marriage is what we are looking for, but they were both WIDOWED and instead of Ann Page being Sarah's mother it is John Bardin that is her natural father, thereby putting the family in the Fletching area and he being brother of the Thomas Bardin of Balcombe.

It would make more sense. 


Claire