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PippaR
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Symcock/Garnett mystery
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Monday 06 April 20 05:54 BST (UK) »
Can I please have some lookup help trying to find what became of one or both of these ancestors -
Thomas Symcock and Lucy Garnett, both born c1791-3. They married in 1815.
Their first 2 children died as infants - Lucy b&d 1816, William b&d 1817. To my knowledge the only other child born and lived, was William 1818-1874 (my ancestor).
Thomas was a rope maker in Nantwich (as was his father William).
I've exhausted my expertise searching for deaths pre 1838 as well as new marriages for either. Even post 1838 I've had no joy.
Any thoughts please would be appreciated.
PippaR
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Re: Symcock/Garnett mystery
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Monday 06 April 20 07:25 BST (UK) »
Just mentioning that your William bapt 1818 was lodging in Beam Street, Nantwich in 1841
HO107/117 bk4 f13 p20
In 1851 he is still in Beam Street, Nantwich and married to Ann (nee Moulton) with children Thomas 4 & Elizabeth 2 -all born Nantwich
HO107/2169 f660 p28
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What information did Williams marriage certificate give about his father and who were the witnesses
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PippaR
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Re: Symcock/Garnett mystery
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Monday 06 April 20 08:28 BST (UK) »
Wm and Ann Moulton married in 1846. Witnesses: James Pick and Clare Lockitt.
There was no mention that his father Thomas was deceased.
Ann Moulton died in 1856 and Wm remarried Ann Tomlinson, widow, in 1858.
Wm died in 1874 in Stockport.
I don't have his marriage cert to his second wife.
(Some birth certs I have purchased from Wm's daughter, have recorded the spelling as Simcox).
PippaR
mckha489
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Re: Symcock/Garnett mystery
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Monday 06 April 20 09:49 BST (UK) »
There is this death. Bit old, but I could imagine an x looking like an e
SIMCOE, THOMAS 83
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in NANTWICH Volume 08A Page 168
PippaR
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Re: Symcock/Garnett mystery
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Monday 06 April 20 10:53 BST (UK) »
I'm comfortable with surname variations and 5 years either side of believed age but I don't think the age is close enough to feel it a match.
I feel Thomas and Jane probably remained in the area, or at least Cheshire, but I can't find a suitable match in England!!
I appreciate you all giving a hand with this. It's tough to let it drop after spending a lot of time on a brick wall!!
PippaR
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Re: Symcock/Garnett mystery
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Monday 06 April 20 11:00 BST (UK) »
Thomas Simcoe was buried in Wybunbury 18th August 1859. The burial entry (image on FindMyPast) states he was from Stapeley. Both places are only a few miles from Nantwich.
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PippaR
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Re: Symcock/Garnett mystery
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Saturday 11 April 20 06:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks for taking a look at this.
cheers, PippaR
garstonite
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Re: Symcock/Garnett mystery
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Saturday 11 April 20 07:48 BST (UK) »
you say Thomas aged 4 in 1851 census
this record says aged 11 ?? and William was born 1821
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Beam Street
Nantwich, Cheshire
Household Members:
William Symcock (30, Male)
Ann Symcock (27, Female)
Thomas Symcock (11, Male)
Elizabeth Symcock (2, Female)
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http://www.rootspoint.com/record/1851-UK-Census/William-Symcock-1821-Nantwich-Cheshire-Nantwich/c93e1033-810d-4911-ab7c-d84948fb96a3/
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire...... sacht,helgoland .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis.. jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford
BumbleB
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Re: Symcock/Garnett mystery
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Saturday 11 April 20 08:10 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast have the image of William's second marriage:
28 June 1858 - Wybunbury
William Syncock (x), full age, widower, Cordwainer. Father: Thomas, Rope Maker
Ann Tomlinson (x), full age, widow. Father: James Shaw, Silk Weaver
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