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Offline KiwiPeter

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WHeres my Father.?
« on: Friday 03 April 20 00:56 BST (UK) »
I have a father that seems to just NOT want come forth and help me complete
that side the family.

IN fact Nothing past my father.
One reason I offer is we were brought up to call our elders aunt and Uncle.
Even neighbors so it is near impossible I would say.

I have tried the N Z army with the service number on his grave.  NOTHING
Various RSA clubs, Is on the honers board at one, but they hold NO records.
Undertaker, as per the death notice NOTHING
NZ Birth Deaths for a birth Certificate. NOTHING
Other family, Nothing.
Other family from dads side, well there's the problem, IS there any??

WHat I know or have

Harold Joseph Hill (Only knew him as Harry) Born 1921-1924 Place unknown.
May have a link to Palmerston North or Feilding (see below)

May have married my mother in 1964 or after. Maureen Faye Grant (Nee Smith)
My mother was divorced from Keith Grant in 1964, My father as Co Respondent.

3 Sons born in the 1950's and 1960's

Dads Cemetery Details
HILL, HARRY JOSEPH
Plot : SOLDIERS BURIAL M Row 16, Plot 157
Interment Type: Burial
Title: MR
Surname : HILL
Given Names: HARRY JOSEPH
Age : 57
Gender : Male
Occupation: STOREMAN
Date Of Death : 30-Dec-1978
Date Of Burial : 03-Jan-1979
Funeral Director : CONVERTED RECORD (Battersby)

If dads age is right above (57) he was born in 1921
If dads age is right on both our Birth Certificates (54) in 1959 then he was
born in 1924

I have mine and my Brothers birth Certificates
Mine shows - B1959,2Nd April - Father Harry Joseph Hill age 35 from Palmerston
North
brothers shows - B1960, 7th March - Father Joseph Hill age 35 from Fielding

I do not have any concrete proof his name was Harold Joseph Hill apart from
documents in relation to the divorce were he is named as Harold Joseph Hill.

On My birth Certificate he is named - Harry Joseph Hill
And on my brothers he is just - Joseph Hill

Only other thing I have is an address were we lived from approx 1962 until his
death in 1978. 12 Beverly Place New Lynn, Auckland, N.Z.

He worked in New Lynn and Avondale area mainly. Employed by Womald Brothers for sometime.

Grave Marker shows 2nd NZEF, Service number 779746, as stated NZDF has no record
of this.

So a complete mystery.
Hill, Smith, Barnaby, Bassett, Batkin, Woolley

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Re: WHeres my Father.?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 April 20 01:06 BST (UK) »
Hi,

You should probably just put your and your brother’s names as initials.

Electoral rolls are on Ancestry for 1959
No Harold Joseph leaping out. What was his occupation on your birth certificate?

I can see him in New Lynn later. First as just Harry Hill, 1972 & 1978 Harry J. Hill

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Re: WHeres my Father.?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 April 20 01:13 BST (UK) »
No Occupation shown on either mine or my brothers, In fact no area for that.
I think usually he called himself a Storeman or a Fitter, but can not be sure.
Hill, Smith, Barnaby, Bassett, Batkin, Woolley

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 April 20 01:28 BST (UK) »
I cannot see a way to search the WW2 ballot lists by number.  :(

No-one on the online cenotaph has that number


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« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 April 20 01:35 BST (UK) »
Skimming the WW2 ballot lists, I actually don’t see any number starting with 7.
The May 1945 list looks to be all 6xxxxx.

There must be someone who knows about this out there.

(I was thinking perhaps his number was correct but he had a new name).


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Re: WHeres my Father.?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 April 20 01:39 BST (UK) »
Do you know who organised his funeral?
Unfortunately Battersbys the funeral directors closed last year and I am not sure where their records went,

Cheers Janette

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 April 20 01:55 BST (UK) »
There are 2 divorce files at Archives

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22744849

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22745216

The second is date 1962-1972

It may be worth applying to the court for permission to view them
Explaining why you need the information

Cheers Janette

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Re: WHeres my Father.?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 April 20 02:02 BST (UK) »
Is this your mother in the 1957 electoral roll

Maureen Faye Hill 1957   Ponsonby   Auckland

If so she may have just taken the Hill name

Cheers Janette

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Re: WHeres my Father.?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 April 20 02:09 BST (UK) »
Do you have his death cert, for parents’ names, etc?

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