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« Reply #27 on: Sunday 05 April 20 10:09 BST (UK) »
Name
Henry Hitchens
GenderMale
Baptism Date20 Jan 1830
Baptism PlacePrimitive Methodist Connexion,Preston Brook Circuit,Cheshire,England
FatherHenry Hitchens
MotherEliza Moore

FHL Film Number0020049 (RG4 543)
Household Members
Name
Henry Hitchens
Age
Eliza Moore
Age
Henry Hitchens

 very interesting - Barnton is 5 miles from Preston Brook by road - probably less along the Canal - so was Henry Hitchens a Boatman ??  do you know ? 
Barges were moored at Preston Brook - it only closed march 2019 - and the only occupation in Preston Brook was boatmen - The Wharf - I suppose he could have been an Ag Lab  but along that stretch of water it was Barnton and then Northwich - SALT trade and very busy 


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« Reply #28 on: Sunday 05 April 20 12:43 BST (UK) »
Just to add to confusion there was another Henry born earlier

He died in 1831.

The Henry for the birth in 1829 is the older brother whom sadly died in 1831 burred at Witton-cum, Twambrook

..... was Henry Hitchens a Boatman ??  do you know ? 

In 1851 he was a labourer.  He wasn't at home with Eliza and the children in 1841.

Burial of Henry A H Hitchens, 12 Nov 1906, Waikumete Cemetery, Wesleyan Division
Died 9 Nov 1906, age 67.
Occupation Compounder of Medicine.
Residence Symonds St.
Native of England, years in province 39

He manufactured Hitchen's blood restorer!

1865 marriages in the district of Dury
Rank or profession: Private of Army Hos Corps

He was also 'formerly of the Royal Victoria Hospital, Netley, England'.  Netley didn't open until 1863 so it is possible that he came to NZ with his regiment.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19060919.2.104.1

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« Reply #29 on: Sunday 05 April 20 17:12 BST (UK) »
The New Zealand Gazette of 1886 has a brief note that Lieutenant Henry Albert Holland Hitchens resignation of commission was accepted by the Governor.

Is there more than one H A H Hitchens in NZ at this time?

The documents about his life that was published on his death to me do not show the life of the Son of a labourer.

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« Reply #30 on: Sunday 05 April 20 19:46 BST (UK) »
The Henry Hitchens born c.1840 in Northwich who was listed as a Corporal at Walmer Barracks in the 1861 census was actually in the 2nd Btn 2nd Foot ( Queen’s Royal ) Depot 


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« Reply #31 on: Monday 06 April 20 00:11 BST (UK) »
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 I am glad someone else has picked up on the high living of a laborers son, if Henry and Eliza are his parents I have the rest of his family in the union poor houses so how dose one go from the poor house to a social light in New Zealand it does not make sense to me.

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« Reply #32 on: Monday 06 April 20 04:55 BST (UK) »
Using Familysearch....New Zealand Archives.....Probate

Finds a Probate file for Henry Albert Holland HITCHENS. Image 211 of 449 has an image of the death certificate -

Died:   9 November 1906, Symonds Street Auckland
Name and Occupation: Henry Albert Holland HITCHENS compounder of Medecine
Age: 67 years
Cause of Death: Cerebral haemorrhage 12 Hours
Father name and occupation:
Mothers name:
Buried: 11 November Waikumete
Minister: Rev W H WILSON, Anglican
When born, how long in New Zealand: Cheshire about 39 years
Where married, age, to whom: Papakure,           ,  Margaret Hillingsworth
Issue living, number, age, sex: 4 males 34, 30, 18, 13.........6 females 38, 36, 28, 26, 22, 20.
Informant, description, residence: F Little, undertaker, Auckland
Registered: 13 November 1906 

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« Reply #33 on: Monday 06 April 20 07:08 BST (UK) »
Yes  :-[ sadly he has left no information about his parents. I find it interesting that he seems so educated and has fine writing skills for a laborers son, as I stated If? Henry and Eliza are his parents and they are in the union poor houses how has he got out of the poor house and got medical training to take himself to New Zealand and be come a Mason and other social standings is troubling me no end. ???  I do Thank all of you for your help and tips I will have to keep digging along. :)

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« Reply #34 on: Monday 06 April 20 09:00 BST (UK) »


A birth certificate for Thomas Henry HITCHENS, and later children, will include age and birthplace for parents.

The Cheshire birthplace is recorded after the death of Henry HITCHENS.

It would be useful to see how his age and birthplace is recorded during his lifetime, and, hopefully with himself as the informant.

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« Reply #35 on: Monday 06 April 20 11:02 BST (UK) »
so I have Lawrence Roy Hitchens birth registration, it has Henry A.H Hitchens at 55 years in 1895 and place as Cheshire so im still looking at 1840,  his death registration has him at 67 in 1906 still has me in 1839 and the marriage in 1865 says 22 which makes 1843 and if the 1851 census with Eliza and Henry is right was 11 years old makes 1840. I am still looking around the 1839 to possibly 1840 ish
 ;) i still am unsure of whom his parents are? ???