O'Neill

[heywood]

That looks really good, wivenhoe 

[heywood]

Of course if the Halligan marriage is that Mary Anne O’Neill it is a spanner in the works.

17th November 1870
Michael Halligan and Mary Anne O’Neill - her address Leeds Street and father John 

[heywood]

Sorry if I am repeating anything
Baptism St Patrick’s
Thomas O'Neil
Age:   0
Birth 1st  February 1849
Baptism 11th February  1849
Father: John Oneil
Mother: Julia Mcnamee
** ancestry transcribes mother as John McNamee but it is Julia

Mary Ann baptised 1853 - same parents

Susanna baptism 1855 - same parents

Joseph 1859 - already mentioned

[Peter Spering]

Thank you everyone!

[heywood]

Whilst some things seem to correlate, it still isn’t clear.
Whilst Julia, who we think might be the mother, died in 1876, the family are difficult to find in 1871 which would be a real help.

Still looking. 

[Peter Spering]

I've found a 60 year old John O'Neill, police constable and widower, on the 1881 census:

James   Mc Brearty   Head   Married   Male   46   1835   Police Constable   Ireland
Catherine   Mc Brearty   Wife   Married   Female   40   1841   Police Constable Wife   Ireland
Catherine   Mc Brearty   Daughter   Single   Female   15   1866   Dressmaker   Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Francis   Mc Brearty   Son   Single   Male   4   1877   -   Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John   O Neill   Boarder   Widower   Male   60   1821   Police Constable   Ireland

4, Gwendoline Street, Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England

[Peter Spering]

Head   John Neill   29
Wife   Julia Neill   26
Son   James Neill   5
Son   Thomas Neill   2
Visitor   James Smith   25
Visitor   Margret Smith   22

1851 census. Checking the image, it definitely is O'Neill. I've checked the ages and they're bang on too. John was a shoemaker and his birthplace is Armagh, the same birthplace is given for Julia and James. Thomas is Liverpool born.

If this is the correct line, then that significantly narrows the gap of their immigration.

[heywood]

Both those look great. I was looking for them in 1851 as they should be there because of Thomas. 

I posted Thomas’ baptism a couple of posts ago.

[wivenhoe]

I am amending this to include all children -

Godparents names are useful as they are often close family members.

Ancestry Lancashire Catholic BDM

At Patricks Liverpool  Baptism

O'NEILL Helen    ps John / Julia McNAMEY  15 Mar / 21 Mar 1847
Godparents Joseph WRIGHT (?) Bridget WRIGHT (?)

O'NEILL Thomas ps John / Julia McNAMEE  1 Feb / 11 Feb 1849
Godparents Francis BYRNE / Ann O'NEILL

O'NEILL John     ps John / Julia McNAMER 22 May / 3 Jun 1851
Godparents Margaret SMITH

O'NEILL Mary Ann   ps John / Julia McNAMEE    3 Mar / 14 Mar 1853
Godparent  Mary O'KEEFE

O'NEILL Susanna    ps John / Julia McNAMEE  3 Feb / 17 Feb 1855
Godparents Julia McDERMOT

O'NEILL Joseph ps John / Julia McNAMEE       17 Jan / 20 Jan 1859
Godparent Maria Josepha DUNLEVY

O'NEILL Susanna  ps John / Julia McNAMER   24 Jul / 4 Aug 1861
Godparents  Denis CASH, Margaret CAMPBELL

O'NEILL Cornelius ps John / Julia McNAMER   8 Jul / 9 Jul 1865
Godparents George ENNIS , Mary ENNIS

O'NEILL Joanna    ps John / Julia McNEMEE  22 Sep / 23 Sep 1870
Godparents George ENNIS, Mary ENNIS