Lookup Charles Alfred Palmer

[Ladyhawk]

1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRFX-LXR

Jun 1862 Lambeth 1d 389   
PALMER Charles
ASLETT Emma

PALMER, EMMA  REBECCA mmn ASLETT 
GRO Reference: 1863  J Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 01D  Page 268

PALMER, CHARLES  JAMES mmn ASLETT 
GRO Reference: 1865  J Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 01D  Page 262

PALMER, WILLIAM mmn ASLETT 
GRO Reference: 1869  S Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 01D  Page 266

Married 9 Jun 1862    St Andrew, Lambeth
Charles Palmer 22 Plumber & glazier
father Samuel same occupation
Emma Aslett 19 father James lighterman

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1851c Piece:   1570 Folio:   435 Page Number:   7
Samuel Palmer   40 plumber
Eliza Palmer   36
William Palmer   13
CHARLES Palmer   10
Louisa Palmer   6
Esther Palmer   3

1861 c Piece:   350 Folio:   104 Page Number:   34
El? Palmer   Wid 45
CHARLES Palmer   21 Christchurch occ Painter
Louse Palmer   16
Esther Palmer   13
Elizebeth Palmer   9
Elen Palmer   5
Elizebeth Palmer   niece 19

PALMER, CHARLES   mn SKELLOM
1840  M Quarter in SAINT SAVIOURS UNION  Volume 04  Page 456

Marriage 21 Jun 1835 St. Mary's Lambeth, Surrey
Samuel Palmer
Spouse:   Eliza Skellom, a minor

[Jamjar]

I think this is the family of PALMER/NEWMAN. Father Charles is a Plumber/Painter.

1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFFX-5DT

PALMER, HARRIOT mmn NEWMAN 
GRO Reference: 1851  M Quarter in SAINT GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01  Page 15

PALMER, GEORGE  JOHN mmn NEWMAN 
GRO Reference: 1853  J Quarter in SAINT GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 212

PALMER, WILLIAM mmn NEWMAN 
GRO Reference: 1854  D Quarter in SAINT GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 189

PALMER, EMILY  ANN mmn NEWMAN 
GRO Reference: 1856  D Quarter in SAINT GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 206

PALMER, JAMES  JOHN mmn NEWMAN 
GRO Reference: 1859  D Quarter in SAINT GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 212

PALMER, GEORGE  EDWARD mmn NEWMAN 
GRO Reference: 1862  M Quarter in SAINT GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 276

PALMER, CHARLES  ALFRED mmn NEWMAN 
GRO Reference: 1864  D Quarter in SAINT GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 248

Is there a ‘next’ page for the 1871?

In 1851 and 1861 there is Charles born Frome wife is Emma:

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Jun 1848 Shoreditch 2 319   
PALMER Charles
PIKE Emma

PALMER, GEORGE  WILLIAM mmn PIKE 
GRO Reference: 1849  J Quarter in THE SHOREDITCH DISTRICT  Volume 02  Page 388

PALMER, MARY  ANN mmn PIKE 
GRO Reference: 1850  D Quarter in ST LUKE CHELSEA  Volume 03  Page 47

PALMER, CHARLES  HENRY mmn PIKE 
GRO Reference: 1852  J Quarter in EAST LONDON UNION  Volume 01C  Page 33

PALMER, ELIZABETH  JANE mmn PIKE 
GRO Reference: 1853  S Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 296

PALMER, WILLIAM mmn PIKE 
GRO Reference: 1856  M Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 315

PALMER, GEORGE  ALFRED mmn PIKE 
GRO Reference: 1860  D Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 351

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[Ladyhawk]

Marriage detail Charles Palmer to Emma PIKE

Charles Palmer full age painter
Father Late George Palmer butcher

7 May 1848 St Mary, Haggerston, Hackney

Spouse:   Emma Pike full age father Late Wm Pike dealer
both single, both signed their names

Witnesses Alfred Pike & Elizabeth Palmer

[bantman]

Thanks everyone lots to digest here

I think a strong candidate is Palmer/Newman .......Palmer / Skellom looks interesting ....I think I've discounted Palmer / Adler even though it's such a good fit but, Charles James is a deal breaker for me.

Thanks again for your lookups
Back to the cross referencing 😁

[Ladyhawk]

For info..... baptism Palmer/Pike children

William Palmer
Elizabeth Jane Palmer reported born 26th July 1853
Charles Henry Palmer reported born 12th April 1852
Mary Ann Palmer        reported born 17th Oct 1850
Father: Charles Palmer occ Painter Mother: Emma abode Grove Passage
All above baptisms on same day 13 Jan 1856 St John  Hackney

George Alfred Palmer Baptism 28 Oct 1860 St John, Hackney
Father: Charles Palmer , painter Mother:   Emma abode Grove Passage

Not found anything on Palmer/Newman children

[Ladyhawk]

I think this is the family of PALMER/NEWMAN.

Father Charles is a Plumber/Painter.

1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFFX-5DT

I have included transcript of the above 1871 census and other censuses with
Charles Palmer born c1824 Frome Somerset

1841 census Frome Somerset HO107; Piece: 942; Page: 1
Sarah PALMER 46
Charles 17 apprentice Painter
Elizabeth 15
Louisa 13
Jane 11
William 8
All noted as born in this county

possible baptism for Charles above at St John Frome Somerset 24 Feb 1824
Charles PALMER Father  George, butcher Mother Sarah abode   Vicarage Street

1851 Chelsea Piece:   1474 Folio:   8 Page Number:   8
Charles PALMER 27 Frome Somerset Painter & Glazier
EMMA 27 Frome Somerset
George William  2 Shoreditch
Mary Ann    5 Mo Chelsea

possible baptism for Emma above
Emma PIKE on 21 Feb 1824 St John the Baptist Frome Somerse
Father William Mother Lydia abode   Behind Town

1861 Hackney  Grove Passage Piece:   157 Folio:   30 Page Number:   9
Charles PALMER   38 Frome Somerset , Painter Glasier
EMMA   38 Frome Somerset
Mary Ann    10 Chelsea
Charles  8 Moorfields
Elizth     7 Hackney
William      5     ditto
George    6 mth ditto
Emma Graffin   Visitor 46 Governess

1871 Piece:   1609 Folio:   76 Page Number:   3
Charles PALMER 47 Frome Somerset Plumber & Painter
MARY   44 Staple Ashton Wiltshire
Charles 18 City of London Plumber & Painter
William      15 Hackney              ditto
George      10 ditto

1881 Ingles Lane Doddington Cambridgeshire Piece: 1689 Folio: 72 Page   37
Charles PALMER (Snr.)   57 Frome Somerset Plumber Painter
MARY         53 Steeple Ashton Wilts
William            25 Hackney
George Alfred    20 ditto
Charlotte WEBB sister in law W   57 Steeple Ashton Wilts

The Will of Charles Palmer plumber & glazier Late of Doddington died 24 Feb 1883
Probate Date:   5 Sep 1883
Sole executrix widow Mary Palmer
Probate Registry:   Peterborough

1891 Doddington Cambridge Piece:   1300 Folio:   160
Charlotte WEBB   Head Wid     Steeple Ashton
Mary PALMER   Sister Wid 68 ditto

[Ladyhawk]

PALMER, CHARLES  ALFRED mmn NEWMAN
1864  D Quarter in SAINT GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 248

I think a strong candidate is Palmer/Newman .......Palmer / Skellom looks interesting

The only baptism I can find to match the above birth reg.

Charles Alfred Palmer born 4th Sept. Bpt 16 Oct 1864 St Paul Wilton Place Knightsbridge
Parents Frederick Henry porter  & Maria, 3 Kinnerton Street

21st Jan 1849 St John, Notting Hill, Kensington and Chelsea
Frederick Henry PALMER f/a, fruitier father William, labourer
Maria NEWMAN f/a father John De Champ Newman, Gentleman
She made her mark (x)
Witnesses John Newman & Mary Anne Newman

1851 census Piece:   1477 Folio:   56 Page Number:   4
Frederc PALMER   28 Marylebone, Porter
Maria    25
Fred H    2
Harrit    2 Mo
Betty Pratley   Servant 14

Fredrick Hy Palmer age 7
Harriet Palmer age 5 1/2
Admission 6 Oct 1856
School:   St Paul's School
Father:   Fredrick Henry Palmer, Greengrocer
Mother:   Maria abode 3 Kinnerton Street

Frederick Henry PALMER Sep 1849 Chelsea Volume:   3 Page:   36 mmn NEWMAN

16th Aug 1885 St Mark Church, North Audley Street
Charles Alfred PALMER age 21 greengrocer
father Frederick Henry Palmer, greengrocer
Teresa PRATLEY age 25
father John Thomas Pratley, bricklayer
Witnesses F. H Palmer & Emma Pratley

[bantman]

Thanks for all the info folks

I've done lots of cross referencing and have a conundrum for you

Charles Alfred Palmer married Ada Emmmeline Wire June 13 1886 Walworth
They had two children Arthur Charles Palmer B 1888 Lambeth and Charles Alfred Palmer B 1890 Battersea D 1892 Wandsworth. Then Ada had another child Mabel Palmer in 1898.

I have Arthur Charles Palmer's (copy) Marriage certificate to Jane Charlotte Evans which says his father ( deceased ) is Arthur Charles not Charles Alfred however I have Ada, Widow, Arthur Charles, Mabel, and Jane Charlotte Evans boarder, all living together at 9 Gaywood Street in 1911 .....Arthur and Jane got married  July 1912 Southwark ....

My question is are there mistakes made on these documents ? to be fair Arthur Charles would never have known his father..... could it have been written down wrong ? I'm sure Ada would have been at the wedding and would have remembered he husbands name ! Its a conundrum ...

I've got overwhelming evidence that they are all related (which is in addition to the above) and I'm not one to change names to suit, but this ones got me scratching my head !!

Love to know your thoughts ....

Cheers Bantman