Joseph Hayes: weaver 1750s

[defallowfield]

Good evening,

I have had some great help on Rootschat in my short time here so now I have another question to ask if I may.

I am looking for information on Joseph Hayes.  I do not know a lot about him at this stage.
I do know that he was a weaver and that he married Rebecca Peales in 1756.  He had a relative named Peter who may have been his father or a brother as this person was a witness to Joseph and Rebecca's marriage.

Joseph and Rebecca had at least four children: Mary b 1757 Joseph b 1760 Martha (1764-1765) and my ancestress Martha (1766-1851).

This is all I know.  I think that they lived in Bishopsgate but I am not sure.  I know neither when Joseph and Rebecca were born, nor when they died.

Is anyone able to assist me with these tricky, shadowy, ancestors?

With kind regards,

Kirk

[rosie99]

To give us some idea of location the marriage took place at St Leonard, Shoreditch
They were both of the parish and listed as bachelor & spinster.

Children were baptised at St Botolph, Bishopsgate

[Novak20]

Does the information about him being a weaver come from the marriage register, or an independent source?

thanks,
Mike

[defallowfield]

Hello Mike,

I am fairly sure that the term 'weaver' came from a baptism but I can't find it at present.  It certainly wasn't on their last child's baptism.  Perhaps I have confused this with another ancestor.

With kind regards,

Kirk

[Novak20]

I found a Joseph Hayes apprenticed in the Weavers' Company -- but without any other evidence that your ancestor is connected, it's unfortunately nothing more than a name match.

Mike

[defallowfield]

That's interesting, Mike.

At least it's something to go on and inquirer in to further.  Was there a year associated with this record?

With kind regards,

Kirk

[Novak20]

Joseph Hayes son of Isaac, broker of Bethnal Green, appr. to John Lehook on 5 Mar 1744.

This date is for the binding of apprentice to master -- the apprentice is usually about 14. Joseph doesn't appear to be in the freedom admission papers index (though that index has lots of problems) so may not have completed his apprenticeship.

A quick index check didn't show a birth for this Joseph, but there is a death of a Peter Hays, son of Isaac, Bethnal Green 13 Apr 1747, so 'Peter' seems to be a family name.

Note that this is probably a fairly well off family.

[defallowfield]

Well that's interesting, Mike.  I found a baptism for a Joseph Hay the son of Isaac Hay in 1730 using the IGI.  The mother's name is Marie Susanne Baillot.
Of course this all has to be a) proven correct and b)have evidence to show that he is my Joseph Hayes.
Still, it's a start!