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Re: State of Emergency, Coronavirus (part 2)
« Reply #198 on: Wednesday 18 March 20 13:07 GMT (UK) »
Can I lighten the topic just for a minute? If you are easily offended then please read the next post instead of mine.
Someone on an internet group of which I am a member shared a comical scenario she had encountered that morning. A delivery driver had called at her door with a parcel & had said, with a straight face, “I'm sorry, you’re not allowed to, touch my thingy anymore”.
Many people had a good laugh about it & the responses were very funny, it does us good sometimes in dark times to see some humour.
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Re: State of Emergency, Coronavirus (part 2)
« Reply #199 on: Wednesday 18 March 20 13:12 GMT (UK) »
...but a reasonable question would seem to be when are these plans going to arrive.

Fair enough.

The core plans will already be in place. Specific plans for situations like the one we are in will be constantly developed as the situation develops, but will draw on outline plans and experience developed from previous situations such as the Swine Flu outbreak.

Announcements will be made when co-ordinating organisations (e.g. national government(s)) decide it is the right time to make those announcements.

No doubt you can appreciate the chaos and confusion that would happen if each council made different announcements at different times.

And also the problem of information overload if everything is explained all at once.

There is more information about how the emergency planning system works here -
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/preparation-and-planning-for-emergencies-responsibilities-of-responder-agencies-and-others

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Re: State of Emergency, Coronavirus (part 2)
« Reply #200 on: Wednesday 18 March 20 13:28 GMT (UK) »
The world is desperately trying to cope with a situation the majority have never seen before.

Afraid I get rather irritated by people demanding their rights - and as for the ridiculous panic buying. Well! I was in my local Tesco yesterday, to see if the things I had tried to buy last week were back on the shelf. I think there was even less than before.  One of the assistants told me, that there was plenty coming in - if only people would stop being greedy. Seems people have started buying bread flour - I always make my own bread, but not for much longer, I am nearly out of flour.

As for the false news about treatments - well, all I can say is there are some very unkind people around.

Sorry - Rant over!!

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Re: State of Emergency, Coronavirus (part 2)
« Reply #201 on: Wednesday 18 March 20 13:30 GMT (UK) »
For goodness sake Nick lighten up, nobody on here would deliberately cause offence to any group of people, and everyone has a right to have their say.
I for one, value people's advice and opinions on here, we are very lucky that we have this very friendly forum where everyone supports and listens to each other. There are many elderly, lonely, disabled and poorly people on here and for them, this is their haven, So let's keep it that way please.
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Re: State of Emergency, Coronavirus (part 2)
« Reply #202 on: Wednesday 18 March 20 13:32 GMT (UK) »
Probably not, as everyone can see how hard the NHS is working.

Except most of us cannot see how hard the NHS is working. We know that doctors and nurses are working flat out, but very few people are first-hand witnesses to it.

Most of us also have no idea about all the behind the scenes stuff that happens that enables the NHS to function. The people working in offices and workshops are just as vital as those in the wards.

The same goes for other organisations like local authorities. There is always a lot happening behind the scenes that most people have no idea about.

I've had nothing at all from my local authority either by post or by email, so no idea what they are doing to keep things going. Perhaps if they kept people updated we wouldn't have to ask.

That's mainly because this is a national emergency so the national government(s) are taking the lead and it is them making the announcements.

At this stage the local authorities will be doing the behind the scenes work as normal, and only announcing things that have a direct impact on their services - e.g. if schools, libraries, day centres etc are closing.

That may change in the coming days.

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Re: State of Emergency, Coronavirus (part 2)
« Reply #203 on: Wednesday 18 March 20 13:33 GMT (UK) »
I rather suspect, despite the advice given in that work of fiction, namely the "Protect and Survive" booklet, that should you have seen those bright flashes in the sky or anywhere else, then you would not have had a home and, should you have survived initially, you would have not lasted very long thereafter.

It has become quite fashionable to mock "Protect and Survive", but some of the comments are based on a misunderstanding of what it was really about. Obviously you won't survive if you are very close to a nuclear explosion, but for people further away it was important to know what to expect and to use simple mitigation techniques to try to maximise the chances of survival.


I am not mocking and I understand what it was meant to do but the fact is Protect and Survive was the biggest load of rubbish ever produced. It was meant to reassure rather than be of much practical use. If the blast didn't get you then radiation sickness etc., etc. would eventually get you. Furthermore, it wouldn't have been just one bomb and there would have been utter devastation across the country; every city, every military installation, every seaport and airport
I am not entirely ignorant of what would have happened and what the result would have been. Today's problems pale into insignificance compared to those which would exist as a result of nuclear attack.
I am fully aware of the plans because I was one of those who would have been required to do his bit, but whether or not I would have been safe is highly debatable and I rather suspect that I, together with my colleagues, was expendable. Furthermore, we were never told what would happen to our families whilst we were out there trying to preserve law and order anywhere we were required across the country.
During our "Protect and Survive" training, such as it was, the consensus of opinion was "in the event of a nuclear war stick your head between your legs and kiss your a*** goodbye". Despite your protestations, this thought is something which, even to this day, I cannot argue with.
I am also aware that the authorities will have action plans in place to deal with our current situation and, I would suggest, these will be more easily implemented than those which were in place in the event of nuclear attack.
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Re: State of Emergency, Coronavirus (part 2)
« Reply #204 on: Wednesday 18 March 20 13:35 GMT (UK) »
It's the end of civilisation - the Eurovision Song Contest has just been cancelled -  :o :o :o
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Re: State of Emergency, Coronavirus (part 2)
« Reply #205 on: Wednesday 18 March 20 13:42 GMT (UK) »
@ Dorrie, soaked twice today so a large hauf was called for! ;D
 At the opticians so couldn't take the car due to the eye drops. my optician was meticulous with the wipes & jelly etc, he's on the front line with the public & expects to be drafted into one of the hospitals pretty soon. I usually get two tests a year but just one this time. He has no idea when he'll be back.
 The intended trip to the hills was a stag-do but the waddin has been postponed pro-tem so no stag. Speaking of stags, a lot of dead deer due to pneumonia caused by the constant wet. Sika badly hit in particular! 

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Re: State of Emergency, Coronavirus (part 2)
« Reply #206 on: Wednesday 18 March 20 13:45 GMT (UK) »
It's the end of civilisation - the Eurovision Song Contest has just been cancelled -  :o :o :o
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One bit of good news.  ;D ;D

I see schools in Scotland and Wales are closing, how long before England does the same?
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