Death Info: Sarah Emma Preedy

[Lensmeister]

Thanks for the thoughts.

Preedy is one of those names that get regularly misspelt.
Preedy, Priddy, Prudy, Predy, even Reedy.

The Timeline in full (to my knwledge):

1830 born Sarah Emma Jenkins born the daughter of Robert and Maria.
1859 Married William Preedy at St. Martin in the Fields, Middlesex.
1861 had child Eliza
1961 Census 41 Dudley Street, Westminster.
1862 had son Henry
1863 son Henry died
1865 son William Henry born (my ancestor)
1871 census 25 Stephen Street St Pancras.
1881 census Henry Preedy at Greek Street, Soho. with a wife called Emma.
1888 William and Eliza have a child called George Frederick in Wood Green (according to my cousin on Ancestry)
1891 Jan 29th; William Preedy marries Eliza Ward in St. Martins in the Fields, Stand.
1891 census not found
1901 census William is a widow living in Islington.
1911 census William as inmate in Upper Holloway listed as married.

So the death of Sarah Emma Preedy remains a mystery?  (also raises a few questions)

Beginning lose the will to find her

[jonwarrn]

I now see that Emily Priddy was in the Westminster Union workhouse in 1871, age 44. So presumably she is the lady who died in Hanwell in 1891.

I think William has been found in 1891 with his family in Islington, piece 162 folio 135 page 14.
Ruby on ancestry.
John

[jonwarrn]

Emma Preedy buried Ealing, 4 Oct 1884, age 54.
There is also a text only entry from England & Scotland, Select Cemetery Registers.
Which says she is buried "Ground Dwiscon B" (What is Dwiscon? Division?)
Grave 15/o

So that seems to be a family grave, with Thomas Preedy buried 4 July 1917, age 86. Also three children buried in 15/o, 1867-70, Ernest Preedy, Ellen Preedy, and Sarah Ann Preedy.

Possibly the Emma Preedy born Taplow married to Thomas the greengrocer, who are around in Ealing at that time.
What is left?

[jonwarrn]

1830 born Sarah Emma Jenkins born the daughter of Robert and Maria.
1859 Married William Preedy at St. Martin in the Fields, Middlesex.

Marriage says father Robert Jenkins, Tailor.

DOD: 19/01/1886 21 Hillside Road.
Emma Preedy
55 YO
Wife of William Preedy a broker.
Informant: A A Sugg - sister.

Could it have said M A Sugg?
Have you got the address of the informant?
Marriage at St Martin in the Fields, 18 Sep 1853
Harry Sugg, full age, Bachelor, Wine Porter
+
Mary Ann Jenkins, full age, Spinster, father Robert Jenkins, Tailor
residence for both Bedfordbury
A witness was a Robert Jenkins.

[Lensmeister]

 

I almost give up on her.

1830 born Sarah Emma Jenkins born the daughter of Robert and Maria.
1859 Married William Preedy at St. Martin in the Fields, Middlesex.

Marriage says father Robert Jenkins, Tailor.

Yes, Sarah Emma's father was Robert Jenkins, a Tailor.

DOD: 19/01/1886 21 Hillside Road.
Emma Preedy
55 YO
Wife of William Preedy a broker.
Informant: A A Sugg - sister.

Could it have said M A Sugg?
Have you got the address of the informant?
Marriage at St Martin in the Fields, 18 Sep 1853
Harry Sugg, full age, Bachelor, Wine Porter
+
Mary Ann Jenkins, full age, Spinster, father Robert Jenkins, Tailor
residence for both Bedfordbury
A witness was a Robert Jenkins.

I haven't got this info anymore. I think I must have deleted the pdf

[Bookbox]

I haven't got this info anymore. I think I must have deleted the pdf

If the informant was indeed M. A. Sugg, jonw65’s find is a clincher. So I suggest you log in to the GRO site and go to My Orders, where pdfs are accessible for 3 months from date of issue.

ADDED - sorry, I now see the order was more than 3 months ago 

[jonwarrn]

Hi
Yes, like bookbox, I am sorry to hear that, I am sure we all are.
Not sure what can be done. If you think it might be your Emma after all, at least you can stop looking. Perhaps hope to get the pdf again at sometime in the future. You have recorded some of the info from it.

Looking at the electoral registers on ancestry, William Preedy is a lodger voter at 57 Greek Street in St Anne, Westminster (Soho) in 1883. Two rooms unfurnished, 3rd floor. At 5/- a week.
This is where he was in the 81 census with Emma. He is not listed there on the 1884 register.

Some news from the 1887 electoral register for Wood Green (polling District E, Tottenham Div of Middlesex)
William Praedy is listed at 21 Hillside-road.

I thought that was an ancestry error, but it does say Praedy!
We already have a Wood Green connection (apparently!)

What could be meant by broker? I was wondering if William could have tried his hand as a furniture broker, something like that?
Bizarrely, finding 21 Hillside Road, Wood Green, in 1891, the occupant was Charles Knight, Insurance Broker! Piece 1072 folio 90 page 57
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q6R8-RT2

In fact the street seems a bit posh, with servants all over the place! So now what to think? 
Don't reorder that pdf just yet!
John

[Lensmeister]

I haven't got this info anymore. I think I must have deleted the pdf

If the informant was indeed M. A. Sugg, jonw65’s find is a clincher. So I suggest you log in to the GRO site and go to My Orders, where pdfs are accessible for 3 months from date of issue.

ADDED - sorry, I now see the order was more than 3 months ago 

 

Just had to buy a new camera so now the bank Manager (wife) will say no. May have to wait and stealthily reorder.

OK so as I am pretty thick at the moment (Brain Fog thanks to Long Covid)

we now think that the Sarah Emma Preedy that died in in 1886 is my Sarah Emma. My only thought is if William Preedy is noted everywhere as a Scene Shifter and Stage painter then on this he is a "broker". As John said below.

Amended Timeline

The Timeline in full (to my knowledge):

1830 born Sarah Emma Jenkins born the daughter of Robert and Maria.
1859 Married William Preedy at St. Martin in the Fields, Middlesex.
1861 had child Eliza
1961 census 41 Dudley Street, Westminster.
1862 had son Henry
1863 son Henry died
1865 son William Henry born (my ancestor)
1871 census 25 Stephen Street St Pancras.
1881 census 57 Greek Street in St Anne, Westminster (Soho) (as Prudy)
1886 died as Emma Preedy aged 55
1888 William and Eliza have a child called George Frederick in Wood Green (according to my cousin on Ancestry)
1891 Jan 29th; William Preedy marries Eliza Ward in St. Martins in the Fields, Stand.
1891 census not found
1901 census William is a widow living in Islington.
1911 census William as inmate in Upper Holloway listed as married.

John and Bookbox.
Thanks you so much.
I went for a walk to clear the head and  I'm rereading it all.

It's all very confusing.

[Lensmeister]

Afternoon all,

I have applied for the Emma Preedy death cert

Code: [Select]

PREEDY, EMMA     55
GRO Reference: 1886  M Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 191
I'll repost what it says when I get it. should be about 19th March 21.