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Re: state of emergency
« Reply #135 on: Sunday 15 March 20 13:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi thanks for your reply we will have to give some thought to that as our son is on different shifts.

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Re: state of emergency
« Reply #136 on: Sunday 15 March 20 13:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Just a query if myself and husband are in isolation due to age what happens to our son in his 50s who goes out to work and lives with us?

The idea is to reduce the risk, if all three are out in the community then all three could be exposed together.

Also, a possibility that your Son might not catch it, nor bring it back on his hands with good hand washing.

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« Reply #137 on: Sunday 15 March 20 13:54 GMT (UK) »
If you share a bathroom with someone in the house who is suspected of having the virus you are supposed to wash all surfaces prior to the next person using the room. Obviously do not share towels.

I am not sure how well it works or how thorough you can be but seeing people in hazmat suits disinfecting and cleaning everything that anyone with the virus may have come into contact with, makes you wonder if our efforts will be enough.

Presumably if a family member shares a kitchen, touching the kettle, plates, pots and pans will also mean it is necessary to clean them after a possibly infected person touches them? There has been mention of light switches and door handles, but there are a multitude of items we all touch ...

It will be difficult to get into the habit of doing this with everything in the house.

I wondered if someone who has the virus pats (or kisses) the dog, how long does that virus live on the dog's coat?


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Re: state of emergency
« Reply #138 on: Sunday 15 March 20 14:07 GMT (UK) »
On radio a little while ago,the virus hailed from bats eaten by wild animals The animals were trapped for their meat, they were killed in the open market and the flesh sold.
I will leave that with you!
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Re: state of emergency
« Reply #139 on: Sunday 15 March 20 14:13 GMT (UK) »
Ruskie, "If you share a bathroom with someone in the house who is suspected of having the virus you are supposed to wash all surfaces prior to the next person using the room."

If it comes to that, I think we are all doomed.

I just think about how many things I touch each day that have been recently touched by somebody else, such as letters on the doormat, money, deliveries, tins of anything.  Just think about the pack of cheese in the fridge, touched by a shelf-stacker, a till operator etc.  You then touch it each day.  Are we supposed to wash our hands to prepare our lunch, then wash hands before we eat it.  My sister has teach her class to wash their hands on seven specific occasions each day, and her hands are raw.

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Re: state of emergency
« Reply #140 on: Sunday 15 March 20 14:16 GMT (UK) »
I work in a hospital and I'm washing my hands so frequently I'm surprised I have any left!!
They have now starting searching staff's bags as people are stealing cleaning supplies and masks  ::)

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« Reply #141 on: Sunday 15 March 20 14:30 GMT (UK) »
There's an interesting downloadable pdf  "Report of the WHO- China Joint Mission on Coronavirus Disease 2019" which gives a lot of information.
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Re: state of emergency
« Reply #142 on: Sunday 15 March 20 14:40 GMT (UK) »
I can also forsee scams developing, ill-intentioned people calling on elderly households, pretending to be from some official source, going to shop for them .... money first, please!!!
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Re: state of emergency
« Reply #143 on: Sunday 15 March 20 15:12 GMT (UK) »
I just think about how many things I touch each day that have been recently touched by somebody else, such as letters on the doormat, money, deliveries, tins of anything.  Just think about the pack of cheese in the fridge, touched by a shelf-stacker, a till operator etc.  You then touch it each day.  Are we supposed to wash our hands to prepare our lunch, then wash hands before we eat it.  My sister has teach her class to wash their hands on seven specific occasions each day, and her hands are raw.

The one significant advantage we have over this virus is it isn't very robust and is vulnerable to basic chemicals most of us have at home already.

Most of the things you mention can be dealt with using simple techniques or minor changes to our normal routine. There were various things I was told about when swine flu was on the rampage and they probably apply just as much now.

E.g. letters - just open the envelope and tip/shake the contents out without touching them. Repeat with each item. Put the envelopes in the recycling bin, then wash your hands. Now you can handle the contents with a lower level of risk, even if the level of risk from the envelope was low in the first place (a matter of debate)

In relation to food it isn't just the shelf stacker and till operator who might have handled an item - if it has been on the shelf for a while it may well have been touched by several other customers, some of whom have very little understanding of basic hygiene.

I've already started doing two things. For stuff going in the fridge or freezer which is in sealed containers/packets I just give the outside of the container/packet a wipe over with anti-bacterial/viral spray before it goes in the fridge/freezer. If stuff is a bit 'cleaner' when it goes into the fridge then when you go to make the cheese sandwich you don't need to worry so much about how many people touched the packet in the shop.

The second thing is with dry stuff like tins and packets. I'm not immediately unpacking them and putting them away in cupboards the moment I get home. The new stuff is going in my spare room and will stay there until I need it. (I normally always have 2 or 3 week's worth of food - I was raised as a country boy  ;) ) By the time I use those tins and packets it should be past the time that this virus is able to survive on those types of surface (3-5 days has been suggested).

It doesn't reduce the risk 100%, but this pandemic is all about numbers and percentages. Anything you can reasonably do to reduce risk to yourself and your family is worth considering.

As for money, as a child I was told to always wash my hands after handling money.... and contactless payment cards have now enabled an alternative strategy to be used if need be. :)