John William Wilson married Jane Shipton or Shipston 20/02/1856, Lyttleton

[decota]

John Thomas Bowen  b. 4/9/1854 Presteigne Radnorshire  England.
parents George Bowen died Crimean War.
Mary Bowen nee Leeke. ( I have found Mary buried in the St Idloes church yard, Llanidloes,
County of Montgomery, England
where her parents are also buried.

John Thomas Bowen arrived in NZ 1908  lived at Woodend 
died New Plymouth 9/8/1925  while living with his son John James Bowen at Marakopa, near Awakino. North Island.
Eliza spent her last years in Christchurch.  Article in Paperspast of how she attended Council meetings
and sometimes the only person in the Gallery.   .. so must have separated??? Eliza Bowen in Bromley Cemetery Christchurch headstone has just her name.
John Thomas and Eliza Wilson... usual address on marriage Cert.   both of them...   Woodend  (near Christchurch)  I have only Certified Copy of Entry of marriage , no witnesses on this.
Would there be a actual marriage Cert.  with witnesses if I send for one.  in 1882   
Should I send for one???

Freshfields       Thank you for the transcript of the headstone in kaiapoi

[wivenhoe]

Is this your family?

NZ BDM births
1882/17457   BOWEN   Mary                              parents Eliza / John Thomas
1884/14037   BOWEN   Clara Jane                           parents Eliza / John Thomas
1887/4499   BOWEN   Francis                           parents Eliza / John
1887/4500   BOWEN   Agnes                           parents Eliza / John   
1888/10954   BOWEN   John James                       parents Eliza / John Thomas
1892/16558   Bowen   George William Blake           parents Eliza / John Thomas   
1897/3548   BOWEN   George Joseph Ward           parents Eliza / John Thomas

Star 22 Jun 1920 p8
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/TS19200622.2.81?
William Blake BOWEN and George Joseph Ward BOWEN were ordered to pay 12a 6d a week each towards the support of their mother. John James BOWEN was ordered to pay 5s a week.

NZ BDM death
1887/5698   BOWEN   Frances   6M

NZ BDM death
1925/3500   BOWEN   John Thomas   72Y

Manawatu Standard 12 Aug 1925 p9
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/MS19250812.2.49?

Mr John Thomas BOWEN, of Awakino, died at New Plymouth on Sunday at the age of 72. He was an old colonist, having come to New Zealand about fifty years ago, and during the last few years had lived with one of his sons at Awakino. He was born in Wales in 1853. Mr BOWEN was the son of the late Mr George BOWEN, who was a soldier of the 41st Welsh Fusiliers and was in the Crimean War, being wounded at Alma and again at  Inkerman, where he died of his wounds. 
Mr Bowen leaves a widow and a family of three sons.


1940/16305   BOWEN   Eliza   78Y

Press 2 Oct 1940   p2
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/CHP19401002.2.8?

A very old colonist, Mrs Eliza BOWEN, died recently at the home of her daughter. Mrs BOWEN was born in Temuka 78 years ago. Her husband died 15 years ago, and she is survived by three sons and three daughters, 13 grandchildren and 16 great grandchildren. The burial took place at the Bromley Cemetery.


How have you identified this couple to be the parents of your John Thomas BOWEN?

"...John Thomas Bowen  b. 4/9/1854 Presteigne Radnorshire  England.
parents George Bowen..........Mary Bowen nee Leeke."

You need  printout .......not certificate.....of the marriage record, 1882.

Use this site to identify and order a printout of the marriage record.

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search

[Janette]

This is what you can expect to find onm a marriage printout

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/dataCollected/marriage

You say JT arrived in 1908 but his 1925 obit.says he had been in NZ for 50 years?

Cheers Janette

[minniehaha]

From reply #2....

These two were twins:

1866/10177   Wilson   Maria   Jane       John William

1866/10180   Wilson   Margaret   Jane        John William


D.O.B.- 21.11.1866


Minniehaha.

[wivenhoe]

BDM NZ
1866/4816   WILSON   Margaret   5W  (26 Dec 1866)

Ten years of childbearing for Jane SHIPTON.......I do not see death of Jane WILSON some time that might be related to birth / death 1866.

[minniehaha]

Where was that wee soul buried?


Minniehaha.

[decota]

Sorry everyone ...  John Thomas Bowen arrived in NZ 1876 on the ship Otago.
Yes that is our family of John Thomas Bowen and Eliza Bowen

BUT in my list of children  for John William and Jane Shipton
no Eliza
 I thought she was Eleanor ..... so will order a Printout as you have said.

Eleanor  maybe she had her very Young  and did she die??
I have 9 children for jane and John William Wilson
mary jane 1856 Bird Island Amoura NZ
George Shipston 1858
Louisa 1859
Eleanor 1862 place...Arowhenua.  ( I have her actual birth Cert. and mother named as Jane Wilson
I was thinking she is Eliza.)  father john William Wilson  ( I forgot I had this)
Eva  1864 Arowhenua near Te Muka
Robert William 1865 m. Mary Brinkley
Margaret 1866 twin
Maria 1866 twin
Isabella Richardson (known as Ada ) spinster d. 1946 CHCH Bromley Cemetery CHCH

Have identified John Thomas Bowen parents as he had his fathers Crimean War medal and the black truck sent from England by his brother William Willie Bowen, b Zante Ionian Islands during the war.
Florence Nightingale put soldiers belongings into the Box ( which has his name George Bowen.No 1609, 41st Regiment of Foot with a letter that has been lost in NZ,  and this Box and Medal are in Tauranga nz with our cousins.
Found where Mary his wife is by a helpful person on Rootschat some years ago
Last year we visited wales and the Church and the death is in the Church book we were allowed to
look.  No headstone for Mary Bowen died 33 yrs.4/5/1857 Severn Port Llanidloes, of pneumonia  Richard Meredith present at death.
Also William Willie and wife Ellen Charlotte Bowen's grave New Brentford , Hounslow, London
they had no family  have wonderful pictures of William and Ellen Charlotte they had sent to NZ
to John Thomas Bowen
It has been quiet a adventure. 
Your help everyone is most appreciated
Decota

[decota]

Hello again Wivenhoe
I forgot to thank you for the most interesting find where the sons of Eliza were ordered to pay her
so much a week..... we were just talking a few days back of how the old ones survived before
superannuation started.  I have search paper past and thought I had found all there, but I have now learn't keep looking............

Will get onto ordering Printouts for Jane and  John William  Wilson marriage 1856, notice date 16 Feb.
and also Eliza and John Thomas Bowen  3/7/1882 Invercargill
 

[lindudes]

Hi Decota, this too is my family, unfortunately they have been a nightmare to research.  I descend from Louisa Wilson whose married name is Dryden.  My tree on ancestry.com.au is Dryden, Johnstone, Kissell and Thomson Family Tree.