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Re: William Evans / Mary Skyrme
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 08 March 20 17:40 GMT (UK) »
Its is a dna match that is showing a John Evans and a Mary Skyrme as being williams possible mothers..
that matches dna thingy says
Predicted relationship: 5th–8th Cousin, Shared DNA: 20 cM across 1 segments

Just a thought, if people who have also done DNA test that these results are produced from have got their tree wrong then won't they give you wrong leads.
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Re: William Evans / Mary Skyrme
« Reply #10 on: Monday 09 March 20 01:01 GMT (UK) »
Exactly Rosie, that's why I've been questioning it all :-(
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Re: William Evans / Mary Skyrme
« Reply #11 on: Monday 09 March 20 02:23 GMT (UK) »
Based on the 1861: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7Z5-G27

EVANS, MARTHA mmn JONES 
GRO Reference: 1854  J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 486

EVANS, SELINA mmn JONES 
GRO Reference: 1857  J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 478

Given the age gap between Charles and Martha, I wonder if there was a previous marriage for Elizabeth, or William. There is a possible Wolverhampton marriage, with a William and Elizabeth on the same page:

Jun 1851 Wolverhampton 17 375
EVANS William
EVANS Elizabeth

1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5TL-VTB

I can’t see son Charles in 1851.

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Re: William Evans / Mary Skyrme
« Reply #12 on: Monday 09 March 20 12:13 GMT (UK) »
Exactly Rosie, that's why I've been questioning it all :-(

If you were already aware that John Evans & Mary Skyrme did have a son called William who was not born until 1833 and living with the family in 1841 then surely that is sufficient to discount this family as yet another wrongly sourced online tree.

I think you need to purchase the birth certificate for Selina mmn Jones in case it has clues to her mothers possible previous married name.
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Re: William Evans / Mary Skyrme
« Reply #13 on: Monday 09 March 20 13:45 GMT (UK) »
Could be the family in 1851
Piece:   2021, Folio:   659, Page Number:   38
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: William Evans / Mary Skyrme
« Reply #14 on: Monday 09 March 20 13:59 GMT (UK) »
 baptism on FindMyPast - William Evans bapt on 12 May 1820 at Knockin s/o William and Ann.William snr's occ is labourer.

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Another William on 25 Feb 1821 at Knockin s/o John and Mary. John's occ - labourer
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: William Evans / Mary Skyrme
« Reply #15 on: Monday 09 March 20 14:27 GMT (UK) »


Jun 1851 Wolverhampton 17 375
EVANS William
EVANS Elizabeth


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William Evans married Elizabeth Evans on 20 Apr 1851 at Bilston, St Leonard
His father John Evans
Hers was John Philpott   
So looks like this Elizabeth was a widow, but not originally Jones
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: William Evans / Mary Skyrme
« Reply #16 on: Monday 09 March 20 15:00 GMT (UK) »
baptism on FindMyPast - William Evans bapt on 12 May 1820 at Knockin s/o William and Ann.William snr's occ is labourer.

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Another William on 25 Feb 1821 at Knockin s/o John and Mary. John's occ - labourer

Haven't yet found a likely William and Ann marriage, but for John and Mary, there is a marriage for a John Evans and a Mary Payne at Sellatyn on 5 Feb 1810. Botp, banns, both signed X, winesses, Thos Jones and what looks like Elizabeth Richardson (X).

Could be where John and Mary came from on the online trees, but instead of looking closer to birth location, they picked a John Evans marrying a Mary on the other side of Wales. Sellatyn was one of the various birthplaces William gives on censuses.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: William Evans / Mary Skyrme
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 11 March 20 15:52 GMT (UK) »
Exactly Rosie, that's why I've been questioning it all :-(

If you were already aware that John Evans & Mary Skyrme did have a son called William who was not born until 1833 and living with the family in 1841 then surely that is sufficient to discount this family as yet another wrongly sourced online tree.

I think you need to purchase the birth certificate for Selina mmn Jones in case it has clues to her mothers possible previous married name.

No, to that I was meaning, yes .. i was aware other trees etc, could easilly be wrong, which is why I wanted to check out the Skyrme stuff, so id not be following a false family
Smith, Tolley, Griffiths,
Monaghan, Richards, Clark, Clarke,
Brazier, Filben, Fibben,Filbin
Sherdon, Churden,Sheldon
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, Bilston, Kent, London, Middlesex