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Shorthand on Bible flyleaf
« on: Wednesday 04 March 20 00:23 GMT (UK) »
Hello All,
I would be grateful for help in deciphering 2 lines of shorthand in a young girl's Bible written in the 1850's.
Thanks, John

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Re: Shorthand on Bible flyleaf
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 March 20 23:15 GMT (UK) »
I can't help with your request, but this will Bring it back up the board.
Carol
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Re: Shorthand on Bible flyleaf
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 March 20 23:28 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, Carol. I think it is a hard nut to crack!
Kind Regards, John

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Re: Shorthand on Bible flyleaf
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 March 20 23:33 GMT (UK) »
Do I see John and Martha at the bottom left John?
Carol
CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
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Re: Shorthand on Bible flyleaf
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 March 20 00:07 GMT (UK) »
Partly right. They are Books in the Bible: Deuteronomy, John, Matthew.
I'm guessing the shorthand is a verse, or a hymn line.
John

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Re: Shorthand on Bible flyleaf
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 March 20 00:53 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: John Johnston on Wednesday 04 March 20 00:23 GMT (UK)
Hello All,
I would be grateful for help in deciphering 2 lines of shorthand in a young girl's Bible written in the 1850's.
Thanks, John
Hi John  maybe I am stating the obvious and you already know but does it not read as
Deuteronomy 6-19  Acts 9-6
Deut      32-46             1Peter 3-13
then the shorthand lines
John 5-39         Acts 17-19
Matthew 24-35                ??? 4-12
Kelly, Hickey, McGinley, Kennedy, Galloway, MacFarlane

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Re: Shorthand on Bible flyleaf
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 March 20 02:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Patsy,
Yes, that is correct, thanks for confirming.
It is the shorthand that is puzzling me.
Kind Regards, John

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Re: Shorthand on Bible flyleaf
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 March 20 10:07 GMT (UK) »
Searching Google it looks that if the shorthand was written in the 1850s then it was Pitman's version, if post 1880s then it could also be Gregg's shorthand.

There is info showing and explaining some of the characters, sorry got a borderline migraine this morning so brain's not working too lucidly otherwise I'd search more and have a go with the characters shown in the articles.

Might be worth a more detailed search to see if a full set of characters is available somewhere.

They would need to be the original version though as the system does seem to have been developed and modified over time.

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Re: Shorthand on Bible flyleaf
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 March 20 18:31 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your suggestions, artifis. I have shown the item to teachers of shorthand but they were stumped. I hope your migraine goes soon.
Kind Regards, John
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