Author Topic: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?  (Read 7840 times)

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Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 26 May 20 18:04 BST (UK) »
Oh, and by the way... if you don't know of any male MacLeans of your line (can be a very distant cousin, or uncle... you should all match in Y DNA), then what we usually recommend is an ancestry.com DNA test with as much information built into your tree as possible.  Ancestry will suggest matches, by name and you might find a male MacLean cousin that they you can test and follow the Y test as his administrator on FTDNA... And if you do have cousins who also SHARE the MacLean side (even a female cousin), then you can "triangulate" and look for MacLeans in common to further fine-tune that ancestry.com matching process.  The closer you are to your MacLean ancestors, the more easy it is to find that male MacLean connection.

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Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 27 May 20 11:19 BST (UK) »
Would still like to know more about the Revds John Maclean for general interest, and because it may interest others here. I had no idea that the Grishipol family was so extensive until I found the tree. Its a pity that Charles is not better documented, but I understand he may have had a son Alexander born 1690. No idea if he had any other family.

The other Revd John was one of the Boreray family who produced quite a number of ministers. Again, apart from the Ecclesiae Scotiae entries I don't know much about him.
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Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 27 May 20 18:57 BST (UK) »
I do know that many people's trees claim Grisipol but I'm not sure if it's really known that his son Alexander is the same Alexander we see coming to America?  IF YOU WANT, you should ask our Clan MacLean DNA Project main admin if he knows more about this line. macleandnaproject@gmail.com

 We tried once to prove out a tree that someone in the project to Grisipo had but it didn't prove out so i know he has done some research..  Our admin, Duncan McLean also knows and has talked to the clan 'historian" Bristol-MacLean when necessary.  He may or may not be able to help but it's worth a shot.

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Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 28 May 20 09:25 BST (UK) »
Im pretty sure it is not. Nor is it Sir Alexander Maclean of Otter...nor anyone else known to the history books. However, I began this thread because of an interest in the 2 Rev Johns and their families, which took me to the Grishipols and Borerays.

If anyone knows the identity of the unknown Boreray I would really be interested. I don't think anyone has tackled it.
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Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 28 May 20 12:15 BST (UK) »
Page 778 and following has quite a bit about the family of William McClean and Elizabeth Rule

archive.org/details/cu31924028864142
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Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 02 June 20 08:58 BST (UK) »
Doesn't look like Rev John Grishpol had a brother called Alexander, whereas Rev John Killean did.
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Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 11 June 20 14:43 BST (UK) »
Some books covering the family include 'From Clan to Regiment' Maclean-Bristol, and various Maclean Clan histories.

Does the book cover Colonel Moses McClean who fought in the American war of Independence?
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Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 29 November 20 08:34 GMT (UK) »
Professor James N.M. MacLean wrote a full length biography on his grandson, Lachlan Macleane, with information about his immediate ancestors, including Rev. McLean, Prebendary of Rasharkin and chaplain to the Massereenes: Reward Is Secondary, Hodder and Stoughton, 1963. Nicholas Maclean-Bristol has some information on this family (The MacLeans of Grishipol) in From Clan to Regiment, Pen and Sword Aviation, 2007. Both are well researched with extensive citations and bibliographies. I am conducting research on the MacLeans of Grishipol and would like to correspond with anyone having interest in this family.
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Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 29 November 20 09:21 GMT (UK) »
Regarding Charles (the drover) youngest son of John, 2nd of Grishipol: see From Clan to Regiment. Regarding history of cattle droving in the Hebrides: A.R.B. Haldane's seminal work, The Drove Roads of Scotland, Birlinn Origin, 2019.
Douglas McLean
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