Help with date and age of girl please with Frederick and Amory

[Jool]

Thank you for your comments Ruskie.  I keep being drawn back to those noses, they are very similar.

[antonymark]

Hi there,

I spent the afternoon at my Mother's house today and showed her this picture. Mum was born in 1942 and remembers wearing a very similar spotted dress to that worn by the young girl here. This was made for her by her dressmaker sister sometime between Mum leaving school (1957) and meeting Dad (1959).

Mum was a career hairdresser but is not able to offer much about the hairstyle. We did a bit of googling of 50's hairstyles but couldn't see an exact match. The nearest we could see were pictures of Audrey Hepburn in "Roman Holiday" (1953) and Hayley Mills in "The Parent Trap" (1961).

Between us we would put the girls age at around 15-20.

We agree about those noses being similar. Is much known about Amory's wider family? If the granddaughter has been ruled out maybe there is a niece or great niece that might fit.

Best regards, Tony.

[Jool]

Hi Tony,
Thank you, and your mum, for your interest and thoughts on the photo. 

I know Amory had a brother and 3 sisters (all older) but I haven't investigated them in great detail - there's a job for me at the weekend 

Amory was from Coalbrookdale in Shropshire and lived with Fred in Wolverhampton after their marriage.  Amory's family stayed in the Coalbrookdale area, so I'm not sure how much contact they had with her family.  I'm not even sure whose garden the photo was taken in - it may have been on a visit to family in Coalbrookdale.  Food for thought, thank you.

[Jool]

I have emailed Fred's great nephew about the girl in the photo, without telling him who I thought it may be.

When he was about 10 years old (in 1955) he used to go to Fred's house to do the garden for him.  He remembers seeing the girl and thinks it is Amory's granddaughter but not completely sure.

 

[Gadget]

The woman and girl have similar noses and face shapes, so I think they are related - possibly grandmother/granddaughter or even Aunt/Niece.

With a casual photo such as this I don’t there there is anything to be taken from the fact that the girl is slightly in the background. 

Her age is difficult to guess but I think she is in her teens.

I agree with Ruskie about the likeness of the woman and the girl.

I was around then and remember my elder sister wearing a dress like that. I think it would be 1958 +/- 2.  I'd think she looks 14-16 ish.

Gadget

[Primrose11]

Hi Jool, yes I think 1950s is a good call. Maybe about 13 going by her undeveloped figure.
Carol

I agree with this.
P

[Jool]

Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this thread, I think the mystery has been solved.
She has no connection to Amory!

I have just spoken to Fred's great nephew (AKA my father in law) who has been giving some thought to the photo and looking through his huge photo collection.

He has now emailed me about 300 family photos I have never seen before  .  They belonged to his aunt.

Amongst the photos are about a dozen with the same girl in them.  He said the girl (name unknown) was a neighbour/family friend of his aunt who moved to Yorkshire. They used to visit family in Wolverhampton regularly and must have brought her with them on a visit.

I will post some of the photos shortly to see if you agree it is the same girl.

[Jool]

Here are some of the photos, they have been scanned quite small so I hope they come out OK.

[antonymark]

That's her!