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Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
« on: Saturday 22 February 20 16:14 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for any help that can be given.
I have attached an extract from an 1897 marriage certificate at Holy Trinity, Hull, however, I cannot work out the residence names.

FindMyPast transcriptions are:
1. 3 Prist Street
2. 85 Barnes Cole Street
If these transcriptions are correct I have struggled to find them on maps new or old.  I would be grateful for second opinions please or links to the transcribed names on a map.

Many thanks,

Nic
Berkshire: Clarke, Croxford, Eustace
Bilston, Staffordshire: Dean
Devon: Blackmore, Matthews
Gwyddelwern, Betws GG, Denbighshire: Davies, Evans
Glamorgan: Dean, Matthews
Hull: Grant, Nicholson, Patterson, White
Newcastle: Patterson
Shafton, Yorkshire: Miles, Moulson,
Wiltshire: Emery

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Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 22 February 20 16:17 GMT (UK) »
No 1 is IMO Print Street or maybe Priest Street.
No 2 maybe Barmston Street?
http://hull.streetmapof.co.uk/barmston-street/


ADDED: Do you have the bride or groom in 1891?
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 22 February 20 16:26 GMT (UK) »
This might help:

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ERY/Hull/HullStreets/Hull1892StreetsB

Have you found them on the 1891-1901 census?

I thought Priest Street too and Barnes Court.

I have never heard of either of them and I grew up in Hull!

Carol
CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
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Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 22 February 20 16:28 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Josey, I have just found the bride's father's address in the 1901 census to be 85, Barmston Street matching your suggestion.
Berkshire: Clarke, Croxford, Eustace
Bilston, Staffordshire: Dean
Devon: Blackmore, Matthews
Gwyddelwern, Betws GG, Denbighshire: Davies, Evans
Glamorgan: Dean, Matthews
Hull: Grant, Nicholson, Patterson, White
Newcastle: Patterson
Shafton, Yorkshire: Miles, Moulson,
Wiltshire: Emery


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Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 22 February 20 16:30 GMT (UK) »
Thank you treetotal,

I have been able to confirm that the second one is 85, Barmston Street from the 1901 census.
Priest does look good for the first one but isn't in the list of street names you kindly included the link for.
Berkshire: Clarke, Croxford, Eustace
Bilston, Staffordshire: Dean
Devon: Blackmore, Matthews
Gwyddelwern, Betws GG, Denbighshire: Davies, Evans
Glamorgan: Dean, Matthews
Hull: Grant, Nicholson, Patterson, White
Newcastle: Patterson
Shafton, Yorkshire: Miles, Moulson,
Wiltshire: Emery

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Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 22 February 20 16:33 GMT (UK) »
  • In 1901 the bride and groom are living at 52, Northumberland Avenue which hasn't helped me  ???
  • In 1891 the groom (Robert Milns) is at Poplar Terrace, Rosamond Street - still no help   ???
  • The father of the groom is Robert Laudaback Milns who I thought would be straightforward to find!

Update: In my searches I have come across this website that I hadn't used before:  http://www.rootspoint.com/
Berkshire: Clarke, Croxford, Eustace
Bilston, Staffordshire: Dean
Devon: Blackmore, Matthews
Gwyddelwern, Betws GG, Denbighshire: Davies, Evans
Glamorgan: Dean, Matthews
Hull: Grant, Nicholson, Patterson, White
Newcastle: Patterson
Shafton, Yorkshire: Miles, Moulson,
Wiltshire: Emery

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Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 22 February 20 16:34 GMT (UK) »
Barmston Street...yes I know of that one...good call Josey...I see it now. I was looking for two words  ::)
Carol
CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
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Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 22 February 20 16:48 GMT (UK) »
Is this him?
Births Sep 1844   
MILNS    Robert Lenderback        Horncastle    14   385
Baptism
Name:   Robert Linderbeck Milns
Gender:   Male
Baptism Date:   29 Jul 1844
Baptism Place:   Horncastle,Lincoln,England
Father:   Joseph Milns
Mother:   Elizabeth

& this marriage?
Marriages Dec 1866   
MILNS    Robert L P        Spilsby    7a   1171    
Waller    Mary J        Spilsby    7a   1171
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 22 February 20 16:49 GMT (UK) »
It sounds like they gave addresses in the nearest Parish to Holy Trinity Church as they both lived in different parishes...it wasn't unusual for couples to stay with friends or relatives when the banns were read...you can see why:

http://www.docbrown.info/docspics/wolds/woldspage14.htm

Now known as Hull Minster...it was given Minster status in 2017 the year of Hull.. "City of Culture"

Carol
CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
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