John Rothwell

[Shogmoor]

John Rothwell, bn 1823 in Ullington, Lancashire. Married Elizabeth (who) from Holt, Wrexham. Had a son James, bn in Eccles in 1860. I can find John and Elizabeth on the 1861 census with James living in Pendleton, Lancashire, but can not find their marriage as I do not know her surname. I would like to find not only their marriage but any of their parents, or any other children they may have had. Any help is always appreciated.

[Milliepede]

The birth registration for James (and any other children they had) should give her maiden name but bear in mind not all couples living as man and wife were actually married!

[Milliepede]

Not sure which registration district covers Eccles but

James Kenyon Rothwell Jun 1860 Haslingden mothers name Kenyon

or

James Nicholson Rothwell Jun 1860 Chorlton mothers name Nicholson

James was baptised in May 1860. 

[Shogmoor]

I did look in Ancestry in the local library and did a search for a John Rothwell who married an Elizabeth, to see if I could then do a search of Holt in Wrexam to look for a matching surname name for her, but did not get very far. Rothwell in Lancashire is very common, making it hard to match the correct one.

[rosie99]

Baptism 24 May 1860 St John the Evangelist, Pendlebury, Lancashire
James Rothwell - Parents John Rothwell & Elizabeth
Abode: Queen St., Irlams o' th' Height
Occupation: Carter

[rosie99]

John Rothwell, bn 1823 in Ullington, Lancashire.

1861 Transcription is wrong, place of birth is Pilkington

[Milliepede]

I think the same John & Elizabeth are together in 1851?  So they could have married long before James was born but 

Elizabeth and James are together in 1871 (no John)

[Milliepede]

James seems unsure of birthplace as it changes on later census, Manchester, Holt etc

[heywood]

Was just going to post that, Milliepede.

John is born Pilkington, in 1861 not Ullington.
1851 is damaged and very difficult to read.

1851 looks like Carter, and both Pilkington and Holt are very feint.