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Re: Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy
« Reply #63 on: Saturday 15 February 20 16:39 GMT (UK) »

Just learned he got married a third time, went back to Ireland and married Clanden Frances (Murphy)



It looks like Edmond Murphy died before 1900, His wife seams to be remarried at the time of Williams marriage to Ellen McGrath. Mother is now Margaret Cochran


Do you have any evidence for the above?
I have never heard of the name Clanden. Do you mean that she was Murphy or became Murphy after marriage.

I can’t see a Cochran marriage - I have looked for Cochrane/Corcoran too. How do you know this?
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Re: Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy
« Reply #64 on: Saturday 15 February 20 16:53 GMT (UK) »


Ellen McGrath's parents Laurance McGrath and Margaret Roache



Probably a sister to Alice!

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Re: Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy
« Reply #65 on: Saturday 15 February 20 17:09 GMT (UK) »
I thought Ellen’s family had been sorted and acknowledged but this latest goes against what we have found.
I don’t understand the new information re the Murphy family.
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Re: Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy
« Reply #66 on: Saturday 15 February 20 17:13 GMT (UK) »
I thought Ellen’s family had been sorted and acknowledged but this latest goes against what we have found.
I don’t understand the new information re the Murphy family.


Very vague!

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Re: Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy
« Reply #67 on: Saturday 15 February 20 17:15 GMT (UK) »
Reply #14

I posted re McGrath/Roache

I had forgotten  ::)  :D
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Re: Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy
« Reply #68 on: Saturday 15 February 20 17:21 GMT (UK) »

Civil Reg Marriage results for William Murphy from 1911 to ?

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http://www.rootschat.com/links/01p23/

If you know when 2nd wife died you can change search criteria to that year and search.



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Re: Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy
« Reply #69 on: Saturday 15 February 20 17:29 GMT (UK) »

C Reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for Murphy of Clonmel

LINK  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01p24/

again just click Deaths and then 1800 folder to get decades, then look for Edmond's death for example in relevant decade.



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Re: Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy
« Reply #70 on: Saturday 15 February 20 17:33 GMT (UK) »
Check out these post's, https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=728248.9
this info was posted

Parish / District:   CLONMEL      County:   Co. Tipperary
Husband      Wife
Name:   William   Murphy      Ellen   McGrath
Address:   Unknown      Clonmel
Denomination:   Civil Parish      Civil Parish
Occupation:   SOLDIER      BARMAID
Age:   Full Age (Over 21)      Full Age (Over 21)
Status:         Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's Father      Wife's Father
Name:   Edmond   Murphy      Laurence   McGrath     
Occupation:   PUBLICAN             
Witness 1      Witness 2
Name:   Michael   McGrath      Nanno   McGrath
Address:         
Notes:
PRIEST;W MEAGHAER CC
HUSBANDS FATHER DEAD.    WIFES FATHER DEAD.
annclare




And the church marriage gives William's mother's name
9-Jul-1900       
Parish / District:   St Mary's Parish      County:   Co. Waterford
Husband      Wife
Name:   William   Murphy      Ellen   McGrath
Address:   Kildare      Irishtown
Denomination:   Roman Catholic      Roman Catholic         
Husband's Father      Wife's Father
Name:   Edward         Laurence           
Husband's Mother      Wife's Mother
Name:   Margaret   Cochran      Margaret   Roache:         
Witness 1      Witness 2
Name:   Michael   McGrath      Honor   McGrath         
Notes:
Officiator: MEAGHER G. Place: ST MARY'S CLONMEL. Comment:
*DECEASED**KILMOLASH.DISPENSATION FROM BANNS


From the first lot of info it says both William and Ellen 's fathers are dead. In the second lot of info it has Williams mother as Margaret Cochran

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Re: Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy
« Reply #71 on: Saturday 15 February 20 17:34 GMT (UK) »

Murphy deaths by decade



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