Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy

[Karytay]

Thanks for info Heywood,and using your subscription at 3Fold to get info.  Have to hear what the family says about all this information.

[heywood]

I don’t have a subscription so can only see what has been indexed because of another linked site.

[heywood]

Thanks for info Heywood,and using your subscription at 3Fold to get info.  Have to hear what the family says about all this information.

I hope they agree with what is found.
It is the death of Ellen which is the difficulty- not being able to find it when William provides such detail.

[Karytay]

The family seams to agree with your findings about William's baptism in 1862 and the names of his parents. His great grand son says if the census agrees with the birth then it must be right.

The next thing will be to find the parents births, marriage and death.

[heywood]

Possible/likely Marriage - where the blot is

29th November 1858
Edmond Murphy and Margt

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632713#page/36/mode/1up

Margaret’s surname is transcribed as ‘Lunny’ on Ancestry. I think it looks to begin with ‘S’.

[Karytay]

thanks

[heywood]

Here is Form H in 1901 for the Barrack at Athlone.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Athlone_Urban__W_/Ranelagh/1773942/

If you scroll down you can see the last name is W Murphy. Under that you can see Barrack Return (Form H) - page 6 is the last page. The name looks like ‘Murthy’ but all rest fits - C Sergt RIRR b Tipperary.
For ‘Occupation’, I think it might read ‘unemployed’ but it has been transcribed as ‘Employer’ on the census page for ‘show all information’. It is difficult to decide.

[Karytay]

Thanks so much heywood, the info does fit. so we have that he was at the army base during the taking of the census.

You have helped so much appreciate it.

[Karytay]

Heywood is there any Irish records pertaining to the Police ?

I see on William Murphy and Ellen McGrath marriage record that Williams father Edmond Murphy was a policeman