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Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy
« on: Monday 10 February 20 14:59 GMT (UK) »
I am finding it hard to find Irish information. I have looked on family search and the links given above with out finding anything.
Is there any were else I can look which is free to view? besides FindmyPast.

I am looking for Ellen McGrath born abt. 1872 in Clonmel to parents Lawrence McGrath and Ellen Shea.Ellen died in 1902 Kilmolash Clonmel.
Her Husband was William Desmond Murphy b. 5 Oct 1860 Clonmel, his father was Edmund/Edmond Fitzgerald Murphy.
I can not find them on census or birth or marriage. William Desmond Murphy came to South Africa after his wife died. Do not know when. 

Any help were I can look for these people, please and thanks.
ps. they could of beloned to the Irish church or the RC. Also I am trying to find the older ancestors of these people.
Thanks.

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Re: Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy
« Reply #1 on: Monday 10 February 20 15:05 GMT (UK) »
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Her Husband was William Desmond Murphy b. 5 Oct 1860 Clonmel,

How do you know that was her husband without any census or marriage info?  I mean where has the information come from.
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Re: Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy
« Reply #2 on: Monday 10 February 20 15:08 GMT (UK) »
This may or may not be the same family but a family tree has

William Desmond father Edmond with a spouse Elizabeth.

By 1910 in SA and death in SA 1954.  There are similarities with your story there. 
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Re: Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 February 20 15:15 GMT (UK) »


You have the Irish Govt Website https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp for Civil Reg

You have to solve security Captcha and can use initials to sign in, safe site , Free Certs.

LINK http://www.rootschat.com/links/01p11/    will get you all Civil Reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for mcgrath of Clonmel

You can then use filter for Marriages or whatever and by Decade.

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https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line explains Years etc...



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Re: Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy
« Reply #4 on: Monday 10 February 20 15:20 GMT (UK) »

You get the Cert for
Marriage of WILLIAM MURPHY and ELLEN MAGRATH on 29 July 1900 (attached) from above Link.

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Re: Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy
« Reply #5 on: Monday 10 February 20 15:23 GMT (UK) »


R.C registers are Free

https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1102  St. Mary's, Clonmel where she Married!

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Re: Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 February 20 15:37 GMT (UK) »


I clicked on Births, then the 1800 folder to get Decades, then 1870's to get

 Birth results for mcgrath of Clonmel 1870s where you can look for Birth and also any siblings..

LINK  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01p12/

which gets her Parents... then one can look for the parents Marriage

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Re: Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy
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Re: Looking for Ellen McGrath and William Desmond Murphy
« Reply #8 on: Monday 10 February 20 16:52 GMT (UK) »
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Her Husband was William Desmond Murphy b. 5 Oct 1860 Clonmel,

How do you know that was her husband without any census or marriage info?  I mean where has the information come from.

Milliepede I got her husbands name from family and her South African death notice that was filled in by her husband. For some reason there was a controversy about her death William wrote a letter of oath confirming that Ellen died in Ireland.