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Medals and Clasps under the army order, issued on 1st April 1901
« on: Thursday 06 February 20 20:06 GMT (UK) »
The question has been asked and for the most part answered, but I could not get back to it after registering an account.
I have found on the USA 1910 census a page with a list of names of those who were receiving these medals and clasps. There is one John Henry Farrell, regiment number 389, who was present at the operations Defence of Kimberley; Relief of Mafeking; Orange Free State and Transvaal. This sounds very much like my great-great grandfather, but how will I verify and confirm that it is him? Is there somewhere that at least his wife's name was noted? His age?Date of birth? Place of birth? Death? The remarks on the doc is feint, and of course I don't understand the meaning of it.
I attach a copy of the page, and hope that someone can advise. Much appreciated, thank you in advance. (PS an error occurred - my image was too large)

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Re: Medals and Clasps under the army order, issued on 1st April 1901
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 February 20 22:40 GMT (UK) »
He served in District 2 of the Cape Police.  This is what the Anglo Boer War web site says about the attestation papers for the Cape Police:
https://www.angloboerwar.com/unit-information/south-african-units/310-cape-mounted-police?start=1   You may wish to try the contact given

The National Archives document WO 100/240  is the Queens South Africa Medal record, you can download the whole thing for free
.https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3764004  he is on page 254 and 378

He seems to have gone on to serve in Scotts Railway Guards after the Boer War, there is a date in 1907 associated with that.

These do not of course have proof it is your relative but the attestation papers, if they survive, might.

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Re: Medals and Clasps under the army order, issued on 1st April 1901
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 February 20 22:45 GMT (UK) »
Wow, thank you very much!

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Re: Medals and Clasps under the army order, issued on 1st April 1901
« Reply #3 on: Friday 07 February 20 09:38 GMT (UK) »
There is more!

J H Farrell service in Scotts Railway Guards gained him another medal, the King's South Africa Medal with clasps South Africa 1901 and South Africa 1902.  The medal roll, which again can be downloaded free is here:
 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3764034. Can't see the page number but he is about halfway through.
He has a different service number but both this roll and the other one cross reference each other.
It is also in WO 100/359.

BUT - it seems that his entitlement to the KSA (that only has to do with exactly when he served in S Africa) was queried and one clasp (1901) made to be returned in 1907/08

Now for the news good/bad - these records state that medals were issued to the man at 13 Catherine Street Waterford in Jan 1908.
 
There is even more (I do hope this is your man!)  He also qualified for the Cape of Good Hope General Service Medal with the clasp Bechuanaland, details of which are here:

https://www.angloboerwar.com/medals-and-awards/non-boer-war/292-cgh-gsm?showall=1

If you enter his name and initials it refers to his listing on the CGHGSM medal roll.  That roll does not appear to be in the National Archives. (Found - see below)

His medal records need a bit more sorting out but I'd rather wait a bit to see if the address makes a connection.

Over to you,

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I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



Double  Essex/Suffolk
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Sokser/Klingler Austria/Croatia


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Re: Medals and Clasps under the army order, issued on 1st April 1901
« Reply #4 on: Friday 07 February 20 09:53 GMT (UK) »
Waterford Standard, 3 Nov 1906
DIED
FARRELL - on 29 October 1906, at her residence, 13 Catherine Street, Waterford, Emily, the dearly loved wife of William H Farrell, Shipbroker, 13, Quay

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Re: Medals and Clasps under the army order, issued on 1st April 1901
« Reply #5 on: Friday 07 February 20 10:03 GMT (UK) »
Brilliant work, MaxD  :)

Waterford Standard, 3 Nov 1906
DIED
FARRELL - on 29 October 1906, at her residence, 13 Catherine Street, Waterford, Emily, the dearly loved wife of William H Farrell, Shipbroker, 13, Quay

Emily Josephine Farrell 1906
Informant was her son-in-law, Horace Joseph.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1906/05545/4555372.pdf

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Re: Medals and Clasps under the army order, issued on 1st April 1901
« Reply #7 on: Friday 07 February 20 11:24 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Kiltaglassan and henes teulu for the Irish dimension.

On tenterhooks now to know whether this is LeonaVDW's g g grandfather.

MaxD

PS  CGHGSM medal roll here:

https://www.northeastmedals.co.uk/britishguide/cape_good_hope_medal_roll_a_b.htm (on the E-G page)
I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



Double  Essex/Suffolk
Randle/Millington Warwicks
Sokser/Klingler Austria/Croatia

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Re: Medals and Clasps under the army order, issued on 1st April 1901
« Reply #8 on: Friday 07 February 20 13:22 GMT (UK) »
.

On tenterhooks now to know ....

MaxD

Me too!